Cheating In European Tournaments

[james adkin]

to be honest i am pretty sure there are quite a few 'board' floating around the european circuit. Soon more people will have them. And i suppose the arguement is -

'well if other guys have it and you dont then your at a disadvantage before the game even starts'

not that i would use one of course

 

[Jack Daniels]

i dont mean to be funny, this may have even been brought up as a point before but,

If everyone had ramping boards fitted, ie the nerve, as standard has one fitted. then what is the big problem ?

if you make it part of the acceptable rules, everyone can have one, just like an electronic/force fed hopper, it is surely just another tool to enable you to fire quicker. The strategies and skill in the game remain.



i dont see a problem with that, and i dont think that if you did ban all ramping boards, it would be nigh on impossible to enforce.

Ps. i dont use a ramping board, i use an eblade, that's quick enough. i would however consider using a ramping board, i have no problem with that.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
i dont mean to be funny, this may have even been brought up as a point before but,

If everyone had ramping boards fitted, ie the nerve, as standard has one fitted. then what is the big problem ?

if you make it part of the acceptable rules, everyone can have one, just like an electronic/force fed hopper, it is surely just another tool to enable you to fire quicker. The strategies and skill in the game remain.



i dont see a problem with that, and i dont think that if you did ban all ramping boards, it would be nigh on impossible to enforce.

Ps. i dont use a ramping board, i use an eblade, that's quick enough. i would however consider using a ramping board, i have no problem with that.

It's the legality that's the problem, not just rule enforcement.

Paul

 

[stark]

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
If everyone had ramping boards fitted, ie the nerve, as standard has one fitted. then what is the big problem ?

Any marker that fires more than one shot per trigger pull - ie ramping - is illegal in the UK. No point saying its OK to ramp in tournies if the old Bill turn up and start arresting people.

 

[Bully]

If everyone had ramping boards fitted, ie the nerve, as standard has one fitted. then what is the big problem ?

if you make it part of the acceptable rules, everyone can have one, just like an electronic/force fed hopper, it is surely just another tool to enable you to fire quicker. The strategies and skill in the game remain.


I am sure the above comments are typical of several paintbllers and therefore I am not wanting to aim my comments specifically at the person posting these comments but all who feel the same way.

If paintball as a sport, in the UK, had restrictions placed on it as a result of one of these "add ons" then I hope these players do not jump on the band wagon and say "Well what is the UKPSF doing about it, it is creating problems for the sport?" because I will just quote the above comments.

What is the big problem... make it part of the acceptable rules...- the point is some of the rules in paintball are governed by LAWS in the UK and by Insurance companies not by players.

Steve

 

[Jack Daniels]

Originally posted by stark
Any marker that fires more than one shot per trigger pull - ie ramping - is illegal in the UK. No point saying its OK to ramp in tournies if the old Bill turn up and start arresting people.

when was the last time the police turned up at a tornament and started testing markers for one shot, one pull ?

when was the last time a paintballer was arrested at a tournament ?

good point about the insurance bully.

as i said, i dont own a ramping board, im just trying to play devil's advocate.

 

[Bully]

Police

The day the police turn up at a tournament and start testing markers might be the kiss of death for paintball. I hope it never happens and that is why self regulation is preferred.

Question:
When was the last time a police officier contacted the UKPSF for advice about a gun they had confiscated and wanted to know the legal issues?

It is easier for them to ask the UKPSF than send it to the FSS for a ruling or contact the Home Office. This they have to do if they want to instigate proceedings (I believe)

The answer - about four times this year!!!!

Incidentally non in direct relation to paintball players just idiots with paintball markers. But what happens if the idiots steal a marker with a ramping device!!

Steve

 

[Russell Smith]

Is it worth the risk

If anyone is found using a ramping gun, I expect they will get at least a 1 year ban from tournament play.

If you need to use a cheat like those above, you are just a no game dick.


Anyone want to admit being one.


Russ

 

[stongle]

Is it worth the risk

Originally posted by Russell Smith
If anyone is found using a ramping gun, I expect they will get at least a 1 year ban from tournament play.

If you need to use a cheat like those above, you are just a no game dick.


Anyone want to admit being one.


Russ

1. From what tournaments, plenty of Rampers in the Mill, they only get a tournament ban???

2. Dunno if the NXL will validate that claim (nor will a lot of other top level teams)

3. No ones going to vounteer themselves for special treatment from the marshals are they?

Seriously anyone whose read the instructions on their gun can make them bounce like crazy, you don't need a special chip set. All electro's in UK circulation have the capability to go FA and sustain it with no special magic or voodoo. Christ certain guns stack shots straight out the factory - whats the difference???

The NXL boards are probably safer than half the markers in circulation in the UK, as they do require some user volition to make them fire FA and they are ROF capped too.

I call King Canute

Oh Ruthless are you selling these, you know what we do traders round here don't you? It involves powertools and lashings of Swarfega (with the polygrains)

 

[Baca Loco]

Re: Is it worth the risk

Originally posted by stongle
1. From what tournaments, plenty of Rampers in the Mill, they only get a tournament ban???

2. Dunno if the NXL will validate that claim (nor will a lot of other top level teams)

1--does pose an interesting question. The MS at CC clearly "allowed" some ramping as they decided they couldn't act against it without "proof" they were unable to attain. For an organization like the PA or any other promotion the flip side is to remove guns and players or teams on appearance alone. Which is worse, end of the day?
2--C'mon, now. Rules as they apply in NXL allow F/A guns so it's not "cheating."