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Baca Loco

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Yet--you just knew there had to be something, didn't ya?

How 'bout them near invisible (and irrelevant) boundary lines? Why not get rid of them altogether? I don't mean fiddle with the dimensions of the fields, I mean don't sweat some nearly arbitrary chalk line when it doesn't matter in the least. It is frequently a crippling penalty to pull a team's wire front for dragging part of his foot over the chalk line as he slides in. And it's completely unnecessary. And is often arbitrary--plenty of pros on Sunday in the wet grass dragged feet, and more, out of bounds and were never--that I saw--pulled for it. Make contact with the net cause for elimination but otherwise let the players play and remove one trivial item from the list of things refs have to be aware of. Not a criticism. ;) :) Just a suggestion.
 
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Thanks, Takedown

Originally posted by Takedown
Hey Baca,

We discussed that before in a prior thread which was originally about the start station rules. Here's the link:
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Well, there you have it. We're all in agreement.:D All that needs to be done is make the start something like raehl suggested so players can't use it for cover on the break and it's settled.

PS--and I bet you guys thought I read every thread. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
 
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How hard would it be to make a set of collapsable flag stations out of PVC piping?

Stick it ON the back boundry line, the start position is barrel on the flag station, and "out-of-bounds" is touching the ground outside of the tapeline.

If you're in a pinch, two 1m stakes and a rope between them (in lieu of a crossbar) would do the trick.



Have a tape/chalkline for out-of-bounds on the back tape, make the netting the boundry on the sidelines...

Starting and out of bounds is now easy and consistent everywhere.

The "markers facing directly opposite the opposing team" rule has to go. Does that mean barrels need to be parallel to the ground? Down? Left or right? How "not quite parallel" is close enough? How "not quite opposing direction" is close enough? Are we going to give refs pendulums attached to protractors to check? ;)

Barrel on flag station is a clear-cut, easy call - either the barrel is touching, or it ain't.

- Chris
 
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Boudry lines...

One problem that I can forsee, by getting rid of the Boundry "tapes", is that eliminated players will be "on the field of play" while making thier way to the dead box. This could lead to eliminated players "shielding" live players as they "attempt" to leave the field. It would also be difficult to determine whether an eliminated player was the victim of excessive bonus balling.

I agree that sliding a foot over the boundry should not mean elimination. I can't see that you gain any advantage from doing it and alot of the time you gonna get tagged if you slide out of the bunker anyway.

...just a thought:)
 
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If sliding a foot over a bondry tape shouldn't cause an elimination..

It's not a boundy tape. It's just an arbitrary line/string on the ground that doesn't mean diddly poop.

Go play football and tell teh ref that "I didn't mean to let the ball roll over the boundry tape" or basketball and say 'I didn't mean to touch the boundry line".

Out is *OUT*, period. If you don't want to be called out,stay in bounds. If you screw up your slide and go out of bounds, tough crap for you - it's no different than screwing up your slide, going past your bunker and getting shot.


- Chris
 
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Originally posted by raehl
If sliding a foot over a bondry tape shouldn't cause an elimination..

It's not a boundy tape. It's just an arbitrary line/string on the ground that doesn't mean diddly poop.

Go play football and tell teh ref that "I didn't mean to let the ball roll over the boundry tape" or basketball and say 'I didn't mean to touch the boundry line".

Out is *OUT*, period. If you don't want to be called out,stay in bounds. If you screw up your slide and go out of bounds, tough crap for you - it's no different than screwing up your slide, going past your bunker and getting shot.

- Chris
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It is an arbitrary line that is meaningless. It isn't anything like football or basketball or whatever. The field of play is already framed by the netting and while a player is rightly eliminated if shot when over-sliding a bunker that is part of the play of the game. The fact that just because there have always been lines around the field of play doesn't mean they serve either the game or a legit function in today's tourney environment. They are an anachronism from woods days.

PS--and thanks for posting your diagram that every field owner running a 3-man figured out about a million years ago. Very insightful.
 
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As we discussed in the other thread I don't think using the nets as the boundary lines will work, at least in the NPPL. For example on the center stage field they have towers, staging for camera booms, photographers, extra refs, etc that all use that out of bounds area. You needs these areas for refs to stand without being shot, for the media and for dead players walking off the field. Perhaps what should be done is put the bunkers so they are no where near the tape line so it would be next to impossible for someone to slide out of bounds, and if they did they deserve to be pulled. Anyway that's the only negatives I see to completely removing the boundary lines. The dead mans walk could take a whole new twist if anywhere inside the net is in play.
 
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