"Bonus Ball" solutions
- Thread starter Tyger
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what if they bounce?!!
A clear 'out' 'sign' would be a good idea in my opinion, and only then should 'serious' cases of bonus balling be penalised. We've all beem shot more times than we could possibly remember anyway, you realy care about a few more? .....Take up tiddly winks.
A clear 'out' 'sign' would be a good idea in my opinion, and only then should 'serious' cases of bonus balling be penalised. We've all beem shot more times than we could possibly remember anyway, you realy care about a few more? .....Take up tiddly winks.
Bonus Balling is not in the spirit of the sport, It can be labelled as being the act of uncertainty, whereby you aren't sure if you've got your man and two or three balls ain't gonna hurt. Is it? However other times it's down to the.... yes Im going to say it....Adrenalin. When you've got a marker that fires 18 balls per second a moment of lighting someone up can be lifetime...or long enough to EMPTY you hopper. Then there are instances where you are in compete control and you have decided that 7 to 8 balls is the miniumum this little pig is going to be sent rolling home with. Frankly, because it is IMPOSSIBLE for a judge or judges to make distinguish between them all i feel that it is part of the gripe we live with in the sport.
Like playing Rugby, when the opposition grab your balls in the scrum, in the mid game tackle, and in the showers afterwards......no...just me then.
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P.S SHAMU - dude, love the avatar, 'and shepard's we shall be, for thee my lord for thee....et nomini partre, ecthilee, spiritu sante'.
Like playing Rugby, when the opposition grab your balls in the scrum, in the mid game tackle, and in the showers afterwards......no...just me then.
lol P.S SHAMU - dude, love the avatar, 'and shepard's we shall be, for thee my lord for thee....et nomini partre, ecthilee, spiritu sante'.
Look dude i told you, i thought it was the soap.Originally posted by €gg
Like playing Rugby, when the opposition grab your balls in the scrum, in the mid game tackle, and in the showers afterwards......no...just me then.
Twist
There's the hockey fight mentality aspect of this, too. Suppose, and this happens a lot, that you think this cheesestick you finally nailed after duking it out with him for 5 minutes finally catches one in the face, but you think he took one long ago and wiped it, then proceeding to shoot out 3 of your guys undeservingly. Whatcha going to do about it? Spank him? Tell his mommy? Nope. Give him a little painful nudge of justice to tell him "Yeah, I saw that @ssh0l3. Don't think you're getting away with it here, and here's another ten to grow on." Vigilante justice on the field. Is it right? Not always, but we're human, we're psyched up on adrenalin, caffeine, nicotine, and whatever else I won't speculate at the moment, and emotions do get the better of us and often not without some shred of justification. Much in this manner we see fights in hockey: the dude gave an uncalled for check on someone he wasn't supposed to, grabbed a jersey a little longer than heterosexuality would normally permit, stuck a skate out to trip up a forward taking the express lane to the goal, etc. and needs a good whooping for it. So, in the spirit of bar fights over ex-girlfriends or current girlfriends being slightly less than loyal, the gloves come off and it's fist to face for a few minutes to clear up who's the big bad wolf and who is the sheep who crossed the wrong fence. A few bruises and minutes in the penalty box later, dignity is restored and aesthetics aside all is well plus the fans got a good shout and laugh on the side.
Now, fast forward to the times where fighting wasn't made an option for gratifying vindiction: sticks to the head (*cough* Marty Mac *cough*), crushed skulls against the end boards, legs broken from a swat at the puck when the leg just oh so conveniently happened to be in the proximity...you get the idea. Remove the outlet for relatively safer venting and you get more creative and more destructive methods. Take away bonus balling and you get longer and nastier rants at the refs (Do you want more of THAT?!), fist fights, Portalet bunkerings (where the sh*t really hits the fan, literally), and whatever the players' minds can construct in the time after the game they will have to dwell on all unpunished wrongdoings on the field which ordinarily they would have resolved by just a few more righteously hateful strokes of the trigger...
If you want that, please find events I'm not at to do your creative modifications. I'll take a couple of welts over a barrel or tank to the head or worse any day.
Now, fast forward to the times where fighting wasn't made an option for gratifying vindiction: sticks to the head (*cough* Marty Mac *cough*), crushed skulls against the end boards, legs broken from a swat at the puck when the leg just oh so conveniently happened to be in the proximity...you get the idea. Remove the outlet for relatively safer venting and you get more creative and more destructive methods. Take away bonus balling and you get longer and nastier rants at the refs (Do you want more of THAT?!), fist fights, Portalet bunkerings (where the sh*t really hits the fan, literally), and whatever the players' minds can construct in the time after the game they will have to dwell on all unpunished wrongdoings on the field which ordinarily they would have resolved by just a few more righteously hateful strokes of the trigger...
If you want that, please find events I'm not at to do your creative modifications. I'll take a couple of welts over a barrel or tank to the head or worse any day.
Good point
KO, this is a fair point. BUT the ramifications of physical attack on a paintball field is (or at least should be) extremely severe. Are people likely to cross that line?
Richard
KO, this is a fair point. BUT the ramifications of physical attack on a paintball field is (or at least should be) extremely severe. Are people likely to cross that line?
Richard
By The WayTie Domi's Tuffer Than Marty Mac
KO-Unfortunately were starting to see the opposite of what your saying..Bonus Balling has become so rampant here in the states,fighting is almost gauranteed at an event because of it..Now its one thing to lob a few extra at someone who you think has done you wrong,but quite another to lob them for no apparant reason..In a recent NXL game one team had 6 guns shooting anywhere between 320 and 350...No while thats dangerous enough,what happens when u decide to bonus ball someone up in the goggles at that velocity shattering them and seriously injuring someone??Are you saying thats acceptable??And also remember,theres been some serious charges pressed against certain hockey players for thier actions..Enough is enough with it..Its recklass behavior and its gonna end up seriously hurting someone...The quicker theres a rule for it,the better...
KO-Unfortunately were starting to see the opposite of what your saying..Bonus Balling has become so rampant here in the states,fighting is almost gauranteed at an event because of it..Now its one thing to lob a few extra at someone who you think has done you wrong,but quite another to lob them for no apparant reason..In a recent NXL game one team had 6 guns shooting anywhere between 320 and 350...No while thats dangerous enough,what happens when u decide to bonus ball someone up in the goggles at that velocity shattering them and seriously injuring someone??Are you saying thats acceptable??And also remember,theres been some serious charges pressed against certain hockey players for thier actions..Enough is enough with it..Its recklass behavior and its gonna end up seriously hurting someone...The quicker theres a rule for it,the better...
Hot gun's are a whole separate issue, i've been shot by my share of hot guns....(thanks rocket) and yes it realy quite smarts, but i'd be more concerned about being mugged than a bloke 15m away shooting 350. That aint gunna break your goggles. If it does, sue the people whoi made yr friggin mask!!
Originally posted by jamie b (campaign)
Hot gun's are a whole separate issue, i've been shot by my share of hot guns....(thanks rocket) and yes it realy quite smarts, but i'd be more concerned about being mugged than a bloke 15m away shooting 350. That aint gunna break your goggles. If it does, sue the people whoi made yr friggin mask!!
A separate issue yes,but maybe you would like to see the pods with holes,and not cracks but holes,that happened when the player got bonus balled with a hot gun...If ya need proof,grab your marker,an old pair of goggles,crank it up and proceed to lay 20 balls into it..Im sure youll find that nasty damage will occur to any set of goggles..And those holes were made from about 10 to 15 feet away..But my point was,bonus balling under the wrong circumstances can and will inflict serious damage..Try and justify it all u want but all its gonna take is one case before the **** hits the fan..Do we really have to wait for that before somethings done about it??But I said it earlier,bonus balls arent as prevalant in Europe as they are here in the States...Its almost as popular as run thrus here now..****,it used to be Pro's doing it to Pro's but now we even have novice teams jumping into the fray..Really its not a question of,is somebody gonna get hurt,but what are the ramifications when it happens??..Something to ponder
pods and goggle lenses are a completely different material standard.
You'll be suprised at level of force your goggles take before failing.
Back to the bonus ball issue, are we saying that a bonus ball is an excessive elimination or, as I've always understood it, shooting a player that is clearly indicating that he is eliminated?
If its the latter then, providing its deliberate and not through a player leaving the field via a shooting lane etc., i've no problem with penalty points. Every player on the field knows how to work their gun and that not pressing the trigger = no balls being ejected.
if its the former, then I'm sorry, I've been in too many situations where players deliberately create havoc in order to allow their team to pull off another move in the resultant confusion. If lighting that player up discourages them (providing they have not indicated they are eliminated) from their actions, well, so be it.
The unfortunate thing is that a lot of this comes about through playing teams who will not get out when eliminated. There are a few teams in the UK who are known for playing on, wiping, etc (you know who you are) and they seem to think that the first five balls don't count. This is the area that needs to be addressed and it will reduce the frequency of bonus balling dramatically - cause there would be no call for it,
JJ
You'll be suprised at level of force your goggles take before failing.
Back to the bonus ball issue, are we saying that a bonus ball is an excessive elimination or, as I've always understood it, shooting a player that is clearly indicating that he is eliminated?
If its the latter then, providing its deliberate and not through a player leaving the field via a shooting lane etc., i've no problem with penalty points. Every player on the field knows how to work their gun and that not pressing the trigger = no balls being ejected.
if its the former, then I'm sorry, I've been in too many situations where players deliberately create havoc in order to allow their team to pull off another move in the resultant confusion. If lighting that player up discourages them (providing they have not indicated they are eliminated) from their actions, well, so be it.
The unfortunate thing is that a lot of this comes about through playing teams who will not get out when eliminated. There are a few teams in the UK who are known for playing on, wiping, etc (you know who you are) and they seem to think that the first five balls don't count. This is the area that needs to be addressed and it will reduce the frequency of bonus balling dramatically - cause there would be no call for it,
JJ