Anything but semi-auto

[Dark Warrior]

If a marker has any other firing option available over and above semi - auto, can it be sold?
My understanding is that the retailer is supposed to disable these options before the marker is sold to a member of the public.
TRUE? or FALSE?

 

[Baca Loco]

DW--there have been truck loads of threads on that subject. Far more than you want to know, I'm sure, if you look back or do a search.

 

[Mark]

Within the UK certainly NOT allowed.....the arguement "could" be used in relation to and against Angel LCD's but as they are locked out by a software command not a physical switch so then they are ok to be sold in the UK. All other mode capable markers are not legal for sale...Shockers Turbo's are ok due to the "grey" area that Turbo finds itself in (of course Turbo is banned within tournys but that is a self regulating ban, not an official legal one) If you are talking about an electro framed marker like the Centerflag uprising or their type then unless the modes are software locked and flicking of the internal switches does nothing then you cannot legally own one of these in the UK...Centerflag will sell you a UK version of their grip btw as their normal version is full mode capable, the other makes such as E-99 etc are capable of the modes by moving of the switches in the grip so in that form they are not legal in the UK...it is the movement and addition of switches that is the important issue here.
So to round up.
no switches = legal,
switches present but disabled in the software = legal,
switches in place and useable = illegal.

Edit (damn you Baca I was re-typing my reply to ensure it read properly and in you popped )

 

[JoseDominguez]

I'm still waiting for a firearms officer to get into paintball and arrest 1/3 of all electro users. Up to ten years custodial isn't it? just for owning a marker capable of full auto "without significant modification" you don't even have to fire it............ only reason we aren't locked up is that the powers that be haven't bothered yet.

 

[Dark Warrior]

Baca
I know about all the issues regarding the law and multi mode and yes there are loads of threads
What I want to know is why is it still possible to buy a fully functional multi mode marker in the UK from a UK retailer?

 

[JoseDominguez]

'Cos unlike yourself, lots of people just aren't aware, I'd include soem small retailers there too. It's surprising...... a full auto race frame could be considered as illegal as an AK47, there just hasn't been a test case yet.

God bless merry old England.

 

[Mark]

Originally posted by Dark Warrior
What I want to know is why is it still possible to buy a fully functional multi mode marker in the UK from a UK retailer?

Its called Sharp practise....they shouldn't sell them but they do...a short while ago a UK online retailer had to put a disclaimer on their site stating that the markers they had previously offered for sale were "deactivated" insofar as the modes side of things. All due to the power of the P8ntballer forums. The main trouble with a few of us agreeing that this or that isn't right is, this is a Public Forum that anyone can access, so some things that "can" be allowed in certain regions of the world are not in others and you really think that "people" from the goverment entitys to whom the decision on allowing or not don't read this and other forums. So restraint on what you post about owning has to be applied...this lack of restraint has surfaced a good few times in the classifieds, eventually the posts were edited. The annoying thing is that regardless of percieved market demorgraphics this forum is english (total registered users don't count, it is active users that are the true yardstick) and as such the infomation should slant in that direction.....how often does the DOT v HSE subject come up and regardless of how often is it asked for that information to be made sticky it doesn't happen and because of that we have to point a newish user to the search facility. WDP cover themselves in the instruction manual for the Angel LCD, by stating that differing regions do not allow full auto and as such the user should comply with the relevent laws within their region.

Think I covered it all

 

[secretsquirrel]

well I brought a LCD marker through a retailer some time ago but as it was a new marker at the time it came straight off the shipment from the USA, it wasn't til I was playing with it accidently knocked a button that put it onto Auto.

I've since got rid of it, but unfortunately didn't know who to ask how to shut the function off because I knew it was illegal to use.

So I think it's down to the retailer to make sure what they sell is legal.

 

[Dark Warrior]

Sharp practise
Just another way of bringing the game into disrepute.
I know retailers have a living to make, but this is downright irresponsible.
N.B. I'm not tarring every retailer with the same brush, but all it takes is one bad egg to spoil the omelette.

 

[secretsquirrel]

Originally posted by Dark Warrior
N.B. I'm not tarring every retailer with the same brush, but all it takes is one bad egg to spoil the omelette.

I know what you mean, because there are some very useful, good value, and helpful retailers out there.
But yes, some are just being lazy or don't check what they are selling!