Yes sorry I have milsims so use remotes,but I have heard some of you tourney players also use them to get the right feel on your markers,something about them being a little long with a bottle on,and I would think if prime8 is going to buy a steel bottle a remote may be better due to weight of the bottle,not sure I would like to wave one around for any length of time,but then I am sure a tourney marker even with a steel bottle would weigh the same as or less than a milsim on a remote lol,it was just an idea.