Originally posted by jahlad
mmmm looks good! nice and small!
cant seem to find anything on their sight about the 2k3 board tho, only a chip on its own.....where did you find that lot phil?
I have one in my bushy
-What is normal Vs. untimed eye mode?
-Why does my eye bypass when I fire without air
-What is After-eye delay?
-(A basic description of eye logic)
Technically, untimed is not a correct description. Let me explain – for the chaos series eye interface, the marker starts in a “ready to fire” mode. As soon as the trigger is pulled, the eye monitors bolt position until the bolt opens. If the bolt never opens, eye cannot do it’s job, so it bypasses. Prior to 2003, this would remain until the marker was power cycled. New chips now automatically monitor for eye operation even when the eye is not being used, and will “kick back on” after a few shots of working properly. In any case, once the system sees the bolt retract, it begins watching for a ball to drop. In normal operation*, the ball drops in a moment, and assuming that the ROF limitation isn’t still waiting to clear, the system delays for the “after-eye delay” (to allow the ball to settle), then the ready-to-fire bit kicks back on. There is a one-bit buffer at this point, so if the trigger has been pulled while the marker was waiting on the ball, it will at this point delay for the “after-eye delay” (to allow the ball to settle), then immediately fire.
* One thing to keep in mind is that the system, for safety and logic reasons, will only wait up to ¼ second for a ball drop. At this point, the difference is figured in – if there is a shot in queue, then if the marker is in standard operation, the marker immediately fires and starts over – thus allowing for dry-firing. If, on the other hand, the marker is in ‘untimed’ mode, it instead clears the shot buffer and continues to wait. As soon as a ball has dropped, it will allow you to fire again. (note – if the trigger is pulled again, the buffer will re-populate, but it will never hold for more than ¼ second – thus, if you have no feeding for 10 seconds, then you pull the trigger, then a ball falls within ¼ second, it will still fire the shot you just pulled)
SO … clear as mud? Believe me, that is an extremely rough run-down, there’s more to it, and this logic is the culmination of years of adjustment and feedback, and it works VERY well.
For comparison: Stock logic:
Pull trigger > Is ball present? –Yes> fire / -No> Ignore trigger pull
(supplement – on 2k3’s, if a ball loads while the trigger is still pulled, it will fire as well)
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- Can I install an eye on any chaos chip? If so, how?
- I have an older chaos eye, and it has broken/cracked - where do I get a replacement?
All chaos systems currently produce support antichop systems. Recommended parts are available from digikey, and the part numbers are listed below. Note that older chaos systems use the reflective eye part listed, and it is a drop-in replacement.
Reflective eye: OR535-ND
Reflective eye hns: OR559-ND
2-sided eye emitter: QED522-ND
2-sided eye detector: QSD722-ND
Keep in mind, eye installations take some electrical and mechanical skill – so, I’m not going to post detailed pinouts here. However, if you are up to snuff, email me and I’ll give you whatever details you need.
There ya go, even gives the eye part numbers(or you can use timmy eyes).
