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Tom Allen

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I guess the difference is the pressure and length of dwell. The lp version propells the ball with a softer push for a longer time, which definately helps with fragile paint, but also gives a flatter trajectory and less kick.

I have seen this, and further testing will shed more light.
 
edit, added this bit Tom

But your back accelerating part of the barrel has a fixed length, that and the force on the paintball would be the variables which affect the velocity.
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I would definately like to see some proof of this low trazectory phenomenon. So far I have only seen proof to the contrary.
 

Tom Allen

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I'm talking about the difference between the standard A4 and the low pressure conversion, have you tried a converted one.
 

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lower pressure is good, please read john c

When you lower the operating pressure of you marker a few good things happen:

- You can use more brittle paint.
- The lower the operating pressure is, the more you can take advantage of a longer barrel. This is because when the psi is low it takes longer to speed the paintball up to 300fps so you can use a longer barrel which translates into more accuracy.
- When you lower the operating pressure you get better air efficiency.
- You also get less wear on the internals of your marker.
- When you have lower pressure the ball makes the transition from the barrel to the open air more easily because: the lower the pressure behind the ball is, the less of a change there will be from the pressure in the barrel to the pressure in the air, resulting in less turbulence and higher accuracy.

I think I've made my point now.
 
lower pressure is good, please read john c

- You can use more brittle paint.
True, but every well set up gun shouldnt break paint, if your paint is so brittle that it is breaking in your gun then it will also be breaking in your hopper and pots.

- The lower the operating pressure is, the more you can take advantage of a longer barrel. This is because when the psi is low it takes longer to speed the paintball up to 300fps so you can use a longer barrel which translates into more accuracy.
Rubbish, the effective length of your barrel is the tight bit at the back. It has been proved that the bolt pressure at the ball is the same for all guns, as is the distance it takes to get to 300fps.


- When you lower the operating pressure you get better air efficiency.
Sometimes, but only when it goes hand in hand with better internals. The stock matrix for example has quite bad efficiency due to its low pressure.

- You also get less wear on the internals of your marker.
The inside of a properly lubed gun should not wear, if it does you are doing something wrong.

- When you have lower pressure the ball makes the transition from the barrel to the open air more easily because: the lower the pressure behind the ball is, the less of a change there will be from the pressure in the barrel to the pressure in the air, resulting in less turbulence and higher accuracy.
If the ball has made it to 300fps it has undergone the same forces in any gun.
In the end section of your barrel it will not be undergoing any major forces except air resistance.



Tom Kaye from AGD has published alot of proper scientific tests which put to bed these myths such as closed bolt, low pressure, spin etc.
www.automags.org
Its in there somewhere.

There is a good quote from Robbo on the subject, I think he compared having a longer barrel and hoping to have more accuracy to pissing in the ocean and hoping the tide will rise up.
 

Tom Allen

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John, with the greatest of respect, i feel you are argueing just for the sake of it. You seem to be taking a contrary position to any comment made in this thread.
Criticism is always constructive, but needs to be balanced within the facts.
I and many others are trying to move forward in this sport, and expect constructive criticism, but I don't feel that you are being constructive in any way, you just seem to be giving negative comments about everything.
This thread reminds me of the Monty Python Argument Sketch, and don't say "no it doesn't":)

Tom.