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Angel 1... Lightest gun EVER!!!

Strawb

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FaceLess said:
According to this months PGI it is 34oz and 7.2" long...so that is approx 960g and 18cm.
So at 960g and 18cm long i assume that weight is without a barrel?

Bushwackers sl66 ego is 1066g with a barrel (1 piece shaft is 136g not sure about a 2 piece) so by my probably flawed reconing it's still 30g heavier that the lightest ego.

And just incase that weight is with a barrel i have something lighter anyway :eek:

Nothing against the Angel 1, but never claim to have the lightest, smallest or fastest of anything :rolleyes: Some smart ass will always come along with something to beat it.
 

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answer to lump, the angel one you held had a couple of things missing, but not enough to make it that much lighter.:) .
 

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Everyone is getting soft ;)

Gone are the days of my X-mag, 1.5l armageddon and warp feed... weighed as much as a small car when whacked together :)

Are these few extra grams guns are dropping really a significant USP?
 

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its WAY too light. would hate to walk on field with it. would feel like i forgot it. would much rather have a dm6. think of putting an air bottle on it and a hopper, youd be mortaring the cars behind the netting rather than shooting the enemy. looks sweet as though even though i dont like angels.
 

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pete wdp said:
answer to lump, the angel one you held had a couple of things missing, but not enough to make it that much lighter.:) .

the 9v? that'd probable double the weight.
The guns a beauty. I just want to know why grown men are complaining about the weight of a marker???!!! ill carry an LED if it was accurate enough!
 

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TheGurkha said:
I just want to know why grown men are complaining about the weight of a marker???!!!
QFT.

I'm not exactly the strongest of guys, and in my old age I sometimes find my incontinence pants to be a little too heavy for me, but I vaguely recall having these things called 'muscles' when I was a lad. Hell, I used to happily run* around with an old-style Shocker Turbo, plus a 1.9l tank full of CO2.

(*I accept that as an old-school back player, all claims of me ever having ran are in fact a breathtakingly scandalous lie on my part, just that 'jog', 'waddle' and 'stagger' don't quite have the same impact :p )

It's akin to the talk about recoil. Recoil?! From a paintball marker?! :rolleyes: FFS, go fire a .303 and then come back and talk about recoil!

Getting back on the subject of the Angel One. It was a very nice piece of kit and I really wish I wasn't wasting my money heading off to the States, otherwise I'd definitely be buying a few. After having a look and talking it though with John from LiPS, I can see that it's going to be one of the easiest markers to maintain, and all post-LED Angels weren't exactly that difficult in the first place.

The Angel One does look a lot more idiot-proof, which tends to be the problem for any marker: users do love to fiddle and then blame everybody but themselves when it doesn't work as well afterwards. Being easier to look after should also help WDP ensure that every marker has a greater chance of leaving the factory properly tuned and ready to go out of the box.

As for the comments on looks, that'll always be a personal choice, some will like it, some will not, so there's little point ever debating it.

How well it shoots in the long term remains to be seen. Personally, I think it's going to be a winner, if only because I have a lot of respect and belief in WDP's technical talent. It did feel different in the hand when compared to past Angels, so again some might be unhappy with it, but equally some might now prefer the feel.
 

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I feel they're gonna need some more top teams using Angels to aid promotion and generate some fanboy intrest. Rage & Joy are both great teams but 2 isn't enough these days compared to the amount of support the Ego has (and the Timmy before it).
 

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Just spotted this:

The Angel 1 weighs 35 oz (990g) including battery/ASA/Regulator
and 38.8oz (1100g) with it’s Feather-Lite 2 piece step bore ported barrel.

That puts it somewhere between a SL66 and a stock ego, not as light as first thought by the look of it.

Not that the weight really matters, looks like the best angel yet.
 

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As I'm sure people'll remember, this, compared to the other angels, is very very light. Compared to the SL66 it's similar (hell 30g isn't that much), but compared to previous angels it's amazing; the amount they've done to it and the weight they've taken off it.

And PS, I'm really impressed with their barrel; it's the lightest I've ever held- like nothing. :)

Strawb said:
looks like the best angel yet.
Without a doubt :)

And I've heard a coupla people say 'it's still got one chamber it doesn't need'. You're wrong...they've actually used it this time not just left it as empty space, & made it store enough gas for 4-5 shots, it says. Also the thang about it having 3 tubes, Well...unlike the others you can't really tell, it handles like a DM, and having three makes it stand out from the (very large) crowd.
 

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That's one of the things that's made me laugh over the past months... there were so many comments that WDP "had" to get rid of the 3-tube design. Ummm, why? It's effectively a signature trademark, something that, as Rosie pointed out, further separates them from the mob. The only possible argument somebody could have had against a 3-tube design, and an argument I don't readily accept anyway, would be that it would perhaps make the marker bigger and heavier, and I think WDP have more than countered that one now that we have the reality rather than mere speculation.

It'll be interesting to see just how much effect that extra-large gas chamber has on improving consistency by smoothing out the vagaries of the air input straight out of the reg. Being the fussy sort of worrier that I am, I must admit I'd be a little nervous at first knowing I have a marker that could store so many shots after I'd turned the gas off, but no doubt owners will soon get used to it.