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An open letter to all players that feel the need to cheat :

Tyger

Old School, New Tricks
I'm writing this, and posting it around. You're reading this because the title intrigued you or you are a cheating SOB. Ok, that's fine. Please, I would like to ask a simple favor of you if you are the latter.

The fact is that I can not change your mind from cheating. Heavens knows I've tried. And since paintball as a 'sport' has pretty much abandoned most of the roots of the game, I can't expect anyone to stop cheating because I ask them to. So, I have one request.

If you are going to cheat, at least do it well. Or at least admit that you're doing it.

Don't take a hopper hit, go back down behind your bunker, wipe it, and come up in the same spot. That's just showing me you're not only a bad cheater, but you're stupid enough to not learn from the first time. That goes for shoe hits too.

Please wipe hits in a manner that it is not obvious to myself, as your opponent. At least get behind a bunker to do it. I don't want to see you cheat, I like to believe that you are an honest person. On a related note, have the cojones to admit that your technique of running to a bunker is meant to wipe hits. A hand over your goggles while you run makes it easier to wipe away hits when you "Superman" into your primary, and is not meant to "deflect" balls. Same goes for creative sliding techniques, like the "360 barrel roll". At least that was a creative method to wipe.

If you're going to wipe a hit, please make sure that it's not on film. And if it is on film, don't try to convince me that wiping your neck with the flag was done because your neck 'itched'. And if you're going to wipe, please don't do it on the Jumbotron at Skyball where your wipe will be seen larger than life in front of all your peers.

If you are 5 foot tall, try to wear clothing that might actually fit you, or at least look like it might. They make 3 XL jerseys for tall overweight people like me, not anorexic twigs like you. Speaking of jerseys, admit that there is no real reason to have shoulder padding other than to get bouncers or try to induce them. Don't blow sunshine up my butt by claiming it's to protect someone when they slide into a bunker.

If you're going to wear padding, I can't fault you for that. But unless you're some kind of mutant, you don't need to wear two sets of elbow pads on your arms to cover your forearms AND your elbows. And if you're not a front guy, do you REALLY need to wear slider shorts with padding on the hips?

Just because you cheat, don't assume that everyone else does too. I realize that in your minds, the theory is that because you do it, everyone else will as well. This is simply not the case.

If you're going to intentionally cheat the chrony, please let me know before the game. I'll be sure to use my new goggle lenses that game, for fear that you will blow out anything but brand new stuff. This will also help explain to me why you need to wear two pairs of elbow pads on your arms, because you may be figuring that I will be doing the same as you and you wish to prevent injury to yourself.

If you get caught, at least have the courage to take it like a man. Instead of making excuses, or attacking your accuser when you know he's right, either walk it off knowing you got caught or actually have the courage to admit that you did cheat! Nothing is more pathetic than a guy screaming that the hit on his back was not from a paintball, but came from something else. It would be refreshing to once actually hear a cheater say "Yeah, I got away with it." or "Yeah, he caught me cheating."

Just a few things I wanted to get out into the open.

-Tyger
 

Tyger

Old School, New Tricks
Originally posted by kris
Hard day at work Tyger??? :)
I expected this reply.

No, actually, just that after the last few outings I've had, I figured it needed to be said. Get it in the open, air the laundry, all that. In one instance I had to walk up to a player, wipe the remainder of my paint forn his visor, and tell him to "Cheat better next time". And, well, if people are going to do it, the least they can do is cheat well, or at least with a level of competancy.

And since nobody ewlse will say it, I will.

-Tyger
 

kris

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Jan 10, 2002
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well in that case
well said
i agree with alot of it but are you saying that if you had the chance to win $20000 you wouldn't be remotely tempted to bend the rules abit?
having said that i know what you post and i can safely say you wouldn't:)
Me? Im not sure , never been in that position but i do know that no cheating is tolerated on Sad UK. An if thats the case i love the team to much to damage them in that sort of way.
 

Tyger

Old School, New Tricks
Originally posted by kris

i agree with alot of it but are you saying that if you had the chance to win $20000 you wouldn't be remotely tempted to bend the rules abit?
Let me put it this way, and I know that every UK memebre will jump in and know what I'm talking about.

"The Hand of God" goal.

I don't know the particulars here, but I DO know it was a case where a player, of high profile, cheated to score. Or didn't cheat, depending on who you believe. Now this player, do you think he's EVER lived it down? Do you think that he's EVER had an interview after that which didn't include the goal? OR do you think it's NEVER Come up again?

Paintball hasn't reached that level of publicity. Yet. Imagine when it does.

-Tyger
 

Walker (Nitro)

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i hear you brother, had one of them "get hit on the hopper, oops there goes my arm....WHAM its gone, oooh i can play again" incidences this weekend, i was soooooo disgusted with the player that i nearly put my gun down and walked over to him to say "how can you be such a dumbass as too cheat in such a blatent way!".....

i wont forget...

i will be playing them again next tourney, lets say if he's i my sights he's gonna get a bit of extra love.....
 

Parksy

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I can understand the predicament of being in a situation where you have a lot at stake and feel the need to cheat... this is not to say I would do it though, but having not been in the situation cannot make a rational comment on it :)

My feeling, and the feeling of the rest of the team I play for is... if you cheat and end up winning a) where is the satisfaction of knowing you did it dishonestly, and b) if we all cheated where does the skill/fun of the game go to? Ot the window thats where....

We have had situations of other people we were playing against get blatent hits on them in the self check area and play on... but hey if they feel they got to do that to stand a chance then its pretty sad if you ask me...

I got the exact opposite problem of cheating, walking off the field without being checked after being hit in the neck, or other non self check area thinking I've been hit :) must get out of the habit of doing that :)

If you have to cheat to 'win' , then are you truely winning at all???

Dave
 

Iain

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Originally posted by le-pig
unnfortunatly tyger,that cheating tw@,became a local hero:(
He admitted after the game that he cheated claiming it was the "hand of god".

There will always be cheating even at tourneys with no prize money. With stricter rules coming in i think a lot of cheats will start to be put off when they get pulled 2 4 1 or even 3 4 1