Airsofter with a question
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They explained that they liked the realism..check the gold board.
most of the reasons they like airsoft are the reasons I don't.. realism, military, real guns, as far as I'm concerned there is no point to pretending, but that's my personal taste.
Paintball is nothing like it, your playing a game, not pretending to fight a war.. I'm trying to score points, not pretending to be a soldier/swat etc.... so us arguing is a bit like a kendo expert arguing with a civil war re-enacter, one is a pastime, the other a competitive sport.
You'll never convince me that dressing up like a soldier and firing "realistic" (yet available in toy shops) guns at people is fun, nor will you convince me that beetroot, ketchup and tea taste nice......not knocking any of them.just not to my taste. (Except beetroot...if you like that then you are actually stupid as it's the devil's semen).
So why not ditch the subject? airsoft has no place here and the only time it's been brought up recently has been by airsofters posting inflammatory threads..........I bet the majority of airsofters have better things to do with their time.
most of the reasons they like airsoft are the reasons I don't.. realism, military, real guns, as far as I'm concerned there is no point to pretending, but that's my personal taste.
Paintball is nothing like it, your playing a game, not pretending to fight a war.. I'm trying to score points, not pretending to be a soldier/swat etc.... so us arguing is a bit like a kendo expert arguing with a civil war re-enacter, one is a pastime, the other a competitive sport.
You'll never convince me that dressing up like a soldier and firing "realistic" (yet available in toy shops) guns at people is fun, nor will you convince me that beetroot, ketchup and tea taste nice......not knocking any of them.just not to my taste. (Except beetroot...if you like that then you are actually stupid as it's the devil's semen).
So why not ditch the subject? airsoft has no place here and the only time it's been brought up recently has been by airsofters posting inflammatory threads..........I bet the majority of airsofters have better things to do with their time.
there is an exact thread the same in the Newbies section and i will answer this one as i did with that........
This is P8ntballer.com which means the only sport that all of us our really bothered about is paintball.....period.
Not cause we "hate" airsoft or the people who play it, just that this web site is dedicated to all those people who play paintball, and anything else is basically of no interest.
Constructive not slating comments intended!
Chris
This is P8ntballer.com which means the only sport that all of us our really bothered about is paintball.....period.
Not cause we "hate" airsoft or the people who play it, just that this web site is dedicated to all those people who play paintball, and anything else is basically of no interest.
Constructive not slating comments intended!
Chris
I am not trying to invade this forum and yes, paintballers do invade airsoft forums.
I personally think paintballers are immature because of all the immature **** they do.
1) I have 14 messages in my inbox which is specifically airsoft hate oriented sent from 12 different paintballers.
2) Paintballers come onto airsoft forums and say "Airsoft is for pussies. Play a real mans sport and paintball." While I (an airsofter) come onto here and as a civilized no-flame question
3) Paintballers destoryed my fort which I build with 4 of my friends in 4th-5th grade to "build up" MY airsoft field which in turn destroyed it. That fort meant alot because one of the friends I built it with died of cancer when he was 14.
4) Then the same paintballers came to my huge field and took our wood to build up their field. When we went to go get our wood back we found a price of plywood which was used to build my fort. Coincidence? I think not.
5) Most paintballers that have made fun of airsoft call us "cock suckers" "little dicks" and "pussies"
Out of airsoft I get military simulation which includes me wearing full camoflage, using realistic guns and communication devices, using a wide variety of military tactics from recon to snipers to assaulters.
There is a very good reason I play airosft. I have a food allergy which eliminates the idea of me joining the army and becoming a ranger (which I want to do). Airsoft military simulation can get me as close as I possibly can to being a ranger.
I personally think paintballers are immature because of all the immature **** they do.
1) I have 14 messages in my inbox which is specifically airsoft hate oriented sent from 12 different paintballers.
2) Paintballers come onto airsoft forums and say "Airsoft is for pussies. Play a real mans sport and paintball." While I (an airsofter) come onto here and as a civilized no-flame question
3) Paintballers destoryed my fort which I build with 4 of my friends in 4th-5th grade to "build up" MY airsoft field which in turn destroyed it. That fort meant alot because one of the friends I built it with died of cancer when he was 14.
4) Then the same paintballers came to my huge field and took our wood to build up their field. When we went to go get our wood back we found a price of plywood which was used to build my fort. Coincidence? I think not.
5) Most paintballers that have made fun of airsoft call us "cock suckers" "little dicks" and "pussies"
Out of airsoft I get military simulation which includes me wearing full camoflage, using realistic guns and communication devices, using a wide variety of military tactics from recon to snipers to assaulters.
There is a very good reason I play airosft. I have a food allergy which eliminates the idea of me joining the army and becoming a ranger (which I want to do). Airsoft military simulation can get me as close as I possibly can to being a ranger.
That's us to a T. We are paintballers, therefore we love to scour the country looking for people who play airsoft and for that reason alone make fun of them as much as possible. If you haven't gotten a letter from me yet, I'd be surprised, as I do it so much.
We enjoy finding those with forts and taking them for ourselves. Only play airball or hyperball? That's okay, I'm sure we can build something else with those pieces of plywood. In fact I think I have a piece of your fort. I use it for a bench next to the hyperball field I play at.
We do extensive research on people who check out airsoft websites (we record IPs) and find out what is special to them for various sentimental reasons and destroy it. Yours just happened to be your fort, which fulfilled our need to taking it down. If you had a puppy you really loved we probably would have killed it, too.
Sound ridiculous? That's because it is. What you have on your hands is a specific group of paintballers that presumably knew you, as you knew who they were to get your wood back. Somehow you have decided that because these kids did something to you, all paintballers hate airsofters. Great logic, Sherlock. When I was a kid, one of the guys on the playground broke my transformer, and he was wearing a yellow shirt. Apparently the hatred that flows through yellow shirt wearers for people who play with transformers cannot be held back.
If you enjoy airsoft, play airsoft. I'm sorry some kids ruined your field and that they happened to play paintball. Deal with them. I'm sorry a dozen people (which is, apparently, a majority of the world's paintball playing population) don't like the fact that you play airsoft...or, more likely, are kids who wanted to mess with someone and decided to use the fact that you play airsoft as a reason to mess with you. Get over it, it's the internet.
We enjoy finding those with forts and taking them for ourselves. Only play airball or hyperball? That's okay, I'm sure we can build something else with those pieces of plywood. In fact I think I have a piece of your fort. I use it for a bench next to the hyperball field I play at.
We do extensive research on people who check out airsoft websites (we record IPs) and find out what is special to them for various sentimental reasons and destroy it. Yours just happened to be your fort, which fulfilled our need to taking it down. If you had a puppy you really loved we probably would have killed it, too.
Sound ridiculous? That's because it is. What you have on your hands is a specific group of paintballers that presumably knew you, as you knew who they were to get your wood back. Somehow you have decided that because these kids did something to you, all paintballers hate airsofters. Great logic, Sherlock. When I was a kid, one of the guys on the playground broke my transformer, and he was wearing a yellow shirt. Apparently the hatred that flows through yellow shirt wearers for people who play with transformers cannot be held back.
If you enjoy airsoft, play airsoft. I'm sorry some kids ruined your field and that they happened to play paintball. Deal with them. I'm sorry a dozen people (which is, apparently, a majority of the world's paintball playing population) don't like the fact that you play airsoft...or, more likely, are kids who wanted to mess with someone and decided to use the fact that you play airsoft as a reason to mess with you. Get over it, it's the internet.
-"Do unto others", eh? Odd, I thought you were implying you were "above" that somehow...
Again, this is a paintball forum. We talk paintball here. We- the general we, though there's exceptions- don't go and harass the golfers, or the speed-quilters, or the motorcross guys, or the Yale Ladies Sculling Club.
Yes, unfortunately you will occasion some noob kid who wants to talk trash, but then, you'll find the same ones in your own sport that badmouth your own players, just as we have loudmouths that badmouth each other here. (Recball vs. airball, stock-class vs. tourneyball, camo vs. jerseys, 'Mag vs. 'Cocker, Robbo vs. Gary Coleman, etc, ad nauseum.)
-Ah. That explains it. Some kids (who apparently happen to play paintball) knock down your fort, and thus all seven-point-five million players in the US, and another ten million worldwide, are all- to a man- immature fort wreckers.
It's quite clear now.
-And are these stemming from last evening's post, above? Fancy that- one doesn't stir the hornets' nest and expect to not get stung.
-So, I take it every paintballer on the planet has come through your forum and registered his or her displeasure with Airsoft? Therefore you can, in all accuracy, say every single paintball player "hates" Airsoft, right?
On the other side of the coin, I run a forum as well, specifically for hardware-oriented Pballers- the tinkerers, the homebrew modifiers, the do-it-yourselfers. We have had more than a small handful of Airsofters come through, over the years- some ask about mods or even what tools they'd need to be able to build this or that upgrade, while others just blurt out something like "Geez, you guys ought to play Airsoft- it costs less, it's cooler, more realistic and the players are more honorable."
So this apparently evil forum crossover phenomenon is not wholly a matter of malicious paintballer raids, okay?
-My condolences. However, you're forgetting a major point here: Paintballers didn't knock down your fort, vandals, who also happened to play paintball, knocked down your fort.
And if you can't understand that distinction, I am wasting my time here.
And again, a few local bullies do NOT speak for all paintballers, just as I can naturally assume not ALL Airsofters had a plywood fort built by friends who died of cancer at 14.
-Again, you're dealing with one small group of kids, a handful, at best, of local vandals. You're painting us all with a wide brush, and inadvertently painting Airsofters with a similar brush on the backstroke. Do you see this?
-"Most"? How many is "most"? There's ten million plus paintball players out there- how many of them have called you names?
Personally, I've had snowboarders, motocrossers, triathaletes, biathaletes, downhill skiiers, snowmachiners, martial artists, equestrians and rollerbladers tell me my chosen sport was "silly" or "dangerous" or even "ought to be outlawed". And yes, in a disparaging number of these encounters, words such as yours were bandied about.
It is NOT purely a phenomenon between paintball and airsoft, no matter how much you'd like to see it as such.
It's an ideological rift much like Republicans and Democrats, or Catholics and Protestants, or meat-eaters vs. vegetarians.
-And I hope you realize that not everyone enjoys that. Just as not everyone enjoys downhill skiing and not everyone enjoys NASCAR racing.
Also realize that events like the Huntington Beach Super 7 simply would not have happened- COULD NOT have happened- if the players wore military outfits and were using realsim guns that LOOKED like real guns.
I started this sport back in the days where we wore surplus BDUs and carried our spare paint in surplus loadbearing harnesses and old shotgun shell belts. We had players who camoed their markers with duckboat tape, and tied strips of brown and green burlap to their goggles to better "blend in".
And people do still play that way- we call them scenario players, and most go "all the way"- Vm-68s mocked up to look surprisingly close to an M4, TS-1s made up to look like M-16s. Using smoke bombs and grenades, radios and night-vision.
But the larger percentage has moved on as the sport has evolved- nowadays it's easier to find a clear field and plunk down a relatively compact airball kit than it is to find a dozen acres of undeveloped woods. The airball is also easier to move, change and adapt.
With the lack of woods comes the lack of need for camo. Faster markers need more paint, and LBEs won't cut it anymore. Competing as teams brings the desire to look like a team, so now we have colorful jerseys amd color-matched goggles.
None of this is meant as some deliberate distancing from Airsoft in particular, it's a natural evolution of the sport, and a distancing from the sport's early days when it was called a "war game" and was thus found by default distasteful by the old ladies and churchgoers who sit on the local zoning commissions and permit boards.
-So? Are any of our reasons for choosing paintball any less valid? When I started playing paintball, airsoft essentially didn't exist, but years later when I found about about it, I tried it and found it wanting. I don't go about telling people "airsoft sucks" or anything similar, I simply choose not to participate myself.
You might also keep in mind there's a little more to being a Ranger than playing with guns. Do you get up at six, run three miles, hit the chow hall, then spend the day on the obstacle course and the rope-insertion tower?
When you come back, bring an argument.
Doc.
ha ha ha ha ha
Why flame him? just read that a couple of times...........it's hilarious, in fact, I think it's a paintballer trying to make airsofters look bad by pretending to be one of them.
He, he...........a food allergy that stopped you from being a ranger, priceless, what's it to? iron rations?
I wanna be an airborne ranger, bugger me I can't 'cos I'm allergic to peanuts.
Also, I notice you are in the US, this site is mostly UK, so go find the people who smashed your fort
it wasn't us, why would we come all the way over there to pick on someone when there are all of those Frenchmen right next door?I was going to be a navy seal, but I have swimmers ear, and I'd have made it into the SAS if wasn't for this damn athletes foot.
Oh, and as for immature, you've used enough profanity to get you barred from most sites, so toddle off and find something else to do, any clock towers near you? you sound the type.
So bugger of, I don't think you'll find any of the people you are looking for on here, we are mostly UK tourney players, with a scattering of Euro and US players plus Joe Bob (different case altogether) whereas I believe the paintballers who are persecuting you are in your head
There ya go, better check your tin-foil hat, it's slipping.
Me senses that there is some OTHER forum of paintballers out there that you have pissed off with your utter ramblings about airsoft. Don't tarnish the other millions of ballers with the same brush.Originally posted by Rhino48
I am not trying to invade this forum and yes, paintballers do invade airsoft forums.
I personally think paintballers are immature because of all the immature **** they do.
1) I have 14 messages in my inbox which is specifically airsoft hate oriented sent from 12 different paintballers.
Bye bye, and oh please please DONT come back to this site with your one sided stupid opinions about the sport that this site is soley dedicated to!
Try this one - www.you.broke.my.fort.you.nasty.paintballer.boo.hoo.com
Chris
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