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Rhino48

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Hello. I airsoft and I do not paintball. I would really like to know from you guys why exactly most of you hate airsoft so much.

Please let me know and please keep this civilized. Before you flame the hell out of me can I just say that most airsofters think that paintballers are immature and irresponsible. Flaming me and cussing and all that other crap would just prove them right. Do you want to prove an airsofter right? I dont think so. So can we please keep this civil. All I want to know is why most people here (the paintball community) hate airsoft so much.
 

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Originally posted by Rhino48
Hello. I airsoft and I do not paintball. I would really like to know from you guys why exactly most of you hate airsoft so much.

Before you flame the hell out of me can I just say that most airsofters think that paintballers are immature and irresponsible.
:D :D :D
 

pb-afroman

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Originally posted by Rhino48
Hello. I airsoft and I do not paintball. I would really like to know from you guys why exactly most of you hate airsoft so much.

Please let me know and please keep this civilized. Before you flame the hell out of me can I just say that most airsofters think that paintballers are immature and irresponsible. Flaming me and cussing and all that other crap would just prove them right. Do you want to prove an airsofter right? I dont think so. So can we please keep this civil. All I want to know is why most people here (the paintball community) hate airsoft so much.
I think a huge issue that a lot of paintball players have with airsoft is the miltaristic views that a lot of people get when hear about it. To the general public, there is almost no difference between airsoft and paintball, so they associate the two together. We are working hard to disassociate ourselves from this view, and every time someone associates us with some sort of redneck malitia because of airsoft we take a huge step backwards. Just a few years ago paintball was played primarily as a form of a war game, but since then we have radically changed into something that does not resemble a war game in any sense except for that we still have to pull a trigger. Right now tournament paintball is on the verge of becoming mainstream, and we have the chance of virtually eliminating the idea that we are training to become terrorists or some other absurd statement like that. At the same time though there is airsoft which is trying to be a war simulation, so when airsoft players spread around that it is a war game, it confuses people when they hear that paintball isn't a war game. They consider them the same, and yet are getting two mixed signals.
On the other hand there are paintball players who also like to make the game as war like as possible, so the same problem is also within our own community too.

All of this basically sums up to that, in my opinion, the problem lies within ignorance of the non paintball/airsoft community. This sounds to me like something incredibly difficult to remedy in any short ammount of time.

I personally have no real problem with airsoft. Itseems fine to me. I've never touched an airsoft gun and probably never will, but different people like different things, so I can understand why someone could be as into that as I am into paintball. I hope some (maybe even all!:eek: ) of this made sense.
 

Tom Allen

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In paintball we have a system of games designed with an objective in each. We know when one of our players is hit by the splat of paint residue physically left on them. How do you define when one of your players is hit, and what are the objectives of an average game in airsoft.
 

Doc Nickel

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Who said we "hate" Airsoft?

Personally, Airsoft is just another one of those oddball "fringe" sports, only a little less popular than paintball. (Yes, I'll admit that even paintball is still somewhat of a "fringe" sport- but then, so is curling, four-man bobsledding and professional bass fishing.)

To gain additional acceptance, and to reduce uninformed public dislike of the sport, paintballers have generally, voluntarily, distanced themselves from the early military aspect.

Yes, early on we used BDU camos, surplus loadbearing harnesses, and covered our "guns" in camoflage tape. But to present a somewhat more publically-acceptable face, most have switched to colorful jerseys, shiny "markers" and made-for-the-sport harnesses.

In the days of one-shot pumps and quarter-a-ball paint out in the woods, camo helped, and players wanted to do the military strategy and formation thing. Nowadays with 18-bps purple-and-chrome markers with more aggregate computing power than an Apple II, paint pushing the one-and-a-half-cent mark, and open fields with colorful, inflatable bunkers, there's no need for either the military look or the military-wannabe tactics.

Most Airsofters, extending from the fact their guns are incredibly realistic to the firearms they're modelled from, go all the way and add camo, military gear and play military or law-enforcement based games.

The two sports, having been only vaguely related in the beginning, have only grown further apart, and are now related only by the fact you're firing a nonlethal projectile with some sort of compressed gas from a gunlike device.

So now, you might ask why the BMX racers don't like Airsoft, or why the skateboarders "hate" paintball, or whatever. You will always find the general population of one sport looking "down" on the general populations of other sports.

The airball guys think shooting each other with 6mm plastic bbs that don't leave a mark, out in the woods, is silly. The Airsofters might think six guys wasting four cases of paint in three minutes running around a bunch of inflatable beach toys is sillier still.

But then, you'll find the same thing within each sport itself- the Airsoft guys split up between military reenactors and law-enforcement practitioners, rifle vs. handgun players, etc. The paintballers split up between the one-shot-one-elimination stock-classers and the case-a-game airball backplayers.

Now, more to the point, can you tell me why you think most paintballers are "immature and irresponsible"?

Doc.
 

Tiny man

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Originally posted by Rhino48
Before you flame the hell out of me can I just say that most airsofters think that paintballers are immature and irresponsible.
Us no!!! :D :D but what the Doc said is probably what we've all been thinking and generally why do airsofters think we're immature. Plus i've always wondered this how do you know somebodys been 'got out' in airsoft?????
 

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This was all discussed on a thread that made our gold board, after a group of ill informed air-softers got together to invade this forum..................go read that thread and don't try to restart an argument that shouldn't have happened in the first place..........I don't like golf, I don't raid their forums.
I don't hate air-softers, I don't feel one way or the other towards you..........as I've said, this was discussed and the topic put to bed. We even suggested playing a cross-event, but the air-softers couldn't as the kit could be damaged and the "uniforms" messed up.

It's two different things......... this forum is mainly used by tournament players....... not rec-ballers, rec-ball has some things in common with air-soft, tournament is absolutely nothing like it.
We take part in a sport, air-soft is a hobby why try to get us arguing again? you don't want to paintball 'cos it hurts, isn't realistic and it's too expensive. I don't want to airsoft as I don't like the military aspect......i have no interest in guns, I don't consider my marker a gun......... no diffferent to when I used the javelin...........yes it's a spear, but I wasn't pretending to skewer michael caine.
That do ya?
As for "most air-softers think paintballers are immature and irresponsible"
we aren't the ones wearing GI joe uniforms and shooting bb's at each other protected only by some oakley shades.

Oh and to the majority of airsofters out there, I'm sorry about the last comment, it's just directed at this particular inflammatory poster. I'm sure you'll see I had a great deal of respect for you (as most ballers did) if you check out the gold board thread.
 

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Originally posted by Tiny man
Us no!!! :D :D but what the Doc said is probably what we've all been thinking and generally why do airsofters think we're immature. Plus i've always wondered this how do you know somebodys been 'got out' in airsoft?????
they explained this last time.........air-softers are purely honourable and never ever cheat......at close range they feel it and further out they listen for the "ping" of a hit.

Hope that didn't come across as sarcastic. I'm just repeating what was posted. Not trying to be funny (does that itself).
 

Tiny man

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Re: Re: Airsofter with a question

Originally posted by JoseDominguez
they explained this last time.........air-softers are purely honourable and never ever cheat......at close range they feel it and further out they listen for the "ping" of a hit.

Hope that didn't come across as sarcastic. I'm just repeating what was posted. Not trying to be funny (does that itself).
*snigger :D snigger* sorry airsofters but you know *snigger* well a ping!!!! *collapses on the floor in a fit of giggles*

No offence meant to airsofters, thats the reason why i play paintball because it is obvious when someone is out, plus markers are all shiny ohhh so shiny, but i suppose people have there own preference but in my eyes airsoft doesn't even come close to being as good as paintball but thats my opinion and yours is probably different and i'm prepared to respect that. :cool:
Lets leave this to the gold board thread now.
 

Tom Allen

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Could an avid airsoft player answer this question truthfully :

What do you get out of Airsoft that you wouldn't get out of paintball.
 
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