.50 cal ballistics data

[goldenelite0]

The only reason I might get into 50cal is because of the 50impulse, on account of owning an impulse that's £300 cheaper than the 68. version. What I want to know is that aside from the obvious, is the 50impulse exactly the same as the original? I also need to find out is if my Prophecy will work with 50cal and if it doesn't, can it be modified to. I'm gonna get some cheap paint for that toy splat marker because I think they're 50 cal? I can then run them through my loader and see if they work ok.

So I will get a 50 impulse if:
- It's the same impulse (which it should be)
- Good paint is available
- 50cal works in my prophecy

 

[Dexter]

has anyone considered that maybe smart parts has seen the tib rounds and thought oh **** we need something new?

 

[Piper]

May I ask if the final heavier fill (that ultimately will give us all the benefits quoted by GImilsim) has been made/released rather than the 1.2g ball that was shot/shown at WC?

The heavier ball is not what I have tested, I tested what was at the world cup. The ball has not been released as yet but it will be in due course.

Goldern,

The 50 Impulse is the same as the .68 impulse
The paint will not work in your loader right now but I hear there are companies that are making drop in kits for the loaders that are out, so it won't be long before one is available I am sure.

 

[painthappy]

The 2 guys in the video are actually Tippman sponsored players......... Always good to have an independent video done!

For the record, we are not Tippmann sponsored players. Thank you for spreading outright lies.

Am I biased? No more than you.

I've played with the paint in a game, and have footage. The "splatter" on your opponent is no better than a joke.

It's one thing to hit a board or someone straight on, but in a game scenario, if it wasn't for my opponents actually calling themselves out, no ref worth his salt would call it a hit.

There's just not enough paint, and it's too thick actually. It sprays off the person, or the shell just barely breaks leaving this splatter looking mark behind that looks like... well... Splatter.

But next time, try and keep your false inside information to yourself to keep yourself from looking like a fool.

 

[Piper]

For the record, we are not Tippmann sponsored players. Thank you for spreading outright lies.

Am I biased? No more than you.

I've played with the paint in a game, and have footage. The "splatter" on your opponent is no better than a joke.

It's one thing to hit a board or someone straight on, but in a game scenario, if it wasn't for my opponents actually calling themselves out, no ref worth his salt would call it a hit.

There's just not enough paint, and it's too thick actually. It sprays off the person, or the shell just barely breaks leaving this splatter looking mark behind that looks like... well... Splatter.

But next time, try and keep your false inside information to yourself to keep yourself from looking like a fool.

Then the information I got was wrong so for that I apologise...............

What paint did you use?

 

[goldenelite0]

The paint will not work in your loader right now but I hear there are companies that are making drop in kits for the loaders that are out, so it won't be long before one is available I am sure.

After a quick look on the internet, apparently they do feed. Though a kit would make sure that the Prophecy feeds 50cal like you expect it to with the 68. I'm still going to get some of that Splat 50cal paint just to try out. Will be hitting ToysRus tommorow!

 

[Piper]

Painthappy

The reason I ask what paint you used is because all the paint I have marks very well. Have a look at the thread entitled guessing game in the .50 forum, and you will see what I mean. The orange splat is 68 and all the others (2 yellow) is .50 cal.

 

[rich666]

What do people make of the new real world testing vdeos?

Not ideal be a long chalk.

Whats the eta on this final final fill formula with a greater density (to improve ballistics?)
-Did GiMilsim produce their data using a different fill to the one being tested by other people thus giving the difference in results?

Im just trying to get my head round the big difference at the moment between the two (So I have a greater understanding) as at the moment, and I appologise if I have not read a lot or actually tested it personally, 1 camp (led by the manufacturer and representatives) say that the stuff they have used/produced is great and outperforms .68 on all levels and the other camp is people who may not have the final product saying that it isnt as good and showing some (if not perfectly scientific) evidence.

So I open it up, Mr Piper (as you seem to be the UK Rep by my reading) is the stuff the gents on MCB have been testing old paint that has been changed (density wise) therefore nullifying their testing or is this the stuff currently (or comming into) production? (if not what will the final fill density be and when will this be ready for testing/use?)

Thank you

R

 

[SteveD]

The .50 cal paint used by MCB for their testing came out of a GIMilsim bag (shown in the video). Presumably obtained at World Cup.

For an added dimension on this discussion, check this out: Patent Application

"My final comment. Everyone seems to agree that the paintball industry has been in trouble for some time. If I was god-of-paintball and wanted to get the industry going. I would get all the existing manufacturers together and force them to agree to licensing anyone their patents for 5 years for a dollar. This would bring a flurry of new businesses back into the market and you would have a flood of new products and cool ideas. In my opinion, that would help paintball more than anything."

AGD (Tom Kaye)

 

[Stee-vo]

.50 paint

Looking at .50 and reading this thread I am at a loss as to why we would ever use it.
Speaking as a player firing smaller balls which have less range, less energy, which are less likely to break, if they do break they leave a smaller splat, are less accurate and are less capable of firing through foilage (in woodsball) has no appeal. Sure we can up the FPS which would help address some of the issues but that in itself would raise other issues in how we play the game.

Speaking as a site owner the prices listed are a joke and lets face it its site owners you need to convince to get the volume of sales. If you are selling me a paintball that uses half the materials of a .68 ball you better be talking about half the price.