2004 cocker problems

[Pinchaaay]

Originally posted by Skeetmaster
Didnt say it was an E-Blade tho did he..im guessing STOCK means just that!!!

Note to self........"must read post properly before replying!"



"Pinchaaay!"

 

[nickp]

Originally posted by jahlad
ok now i know what its doing i can tell you what to check

it fires the first shot so the cocking lug is ok, first thing to check is the cocking rod, unscrew it completely and remove it from the marker, check the threads are ok, then carefully screw it all the way back in and test the marker again..........its not uncommon for people to put them back in wrong and it feels like its in ok but it isnt...........one of our new team markers was doing the same thing the other day and it was fixed by just removing the cocking rond and putting it back in.
if that doesnt cure it then the next question is, have you adjusted ANYTHING on the marker, ie the trigger/timing or the front reg. its also quite likely that the trigger adjustment can limit the 3 way and stop the marker recocking

So when are you going to pass on your knowledge to the rest of our team that know nothing about their new mowing machines...

 

[Beaker]

one thing to check, when you fire, keep the trigger fully back and then try and pull the back block back another 5mm or so, see if that engages the sear.

 

[jahlad]

Originally posted by nickp
So when are you going to pass on your knowledge to the rest of our team that know nothing about their new mowing machines...

soon as we have the air systems me and jud were planning on a tech class for the rest of the boys

 

[Skeet]

Well..if it's not cocking on its own, then..is the cocking block coming back far enough...ie...cocking preassure....cock it, fire it and keep the trigger held...look in the feed neck...should be able to see only the smallest sliver of the bolt...if you can up the cocking preassure by adjusting the front LPR (dunno, have they got a Tickler on them?)
Pull the block back by hand and see if its coming back as much as it should..also if it cocks teh marker that way...

 

[gregorius]

Should i be able to cock it by pulling the block back by hand before gassing it up,because i cant, and i could before it stopped working.

 

[Skeet]

Yes you should..so, the back block isnt catching the cocking rod enough..which means the cocking rod is too long, which means its not in properly....or something else

 

[Bone]

It could be the cocking rod being too long (not screwed in all the way) like skeet said, or it could be the nut on the end of the cocking rod being unscrewed or loose... Check both!

De-gas, take the hopper off, pull the back block back by hand whilst looking down the feed tube and see where the bolt stops, normally you would hear the "click" of the gun cocking just as the bolt is about to go out of sight....

The bolt SHOULD go out of sight, even if the marker doesnt cock.

If this is the case, and your cocking rod is most definately screwed in all the way,then your sear lug might be too short (might have worked its way loose, or worn away abit as it got "broken in").

It is normal for new mechanical cockers to suffer from timing changes as they work their way through the first few thousand shots... The thing is, to fix it you have to alter the markers timing, and the chance is there to really screw things up! (mind the punn)

I think i'll stop there and let you check all that stuff before going in to the intricacies of timing a cocker!

 

[DangerousBrian]

i fixed this gun at the weekend, the hammer was cross threaded and so as u say,m wasnt in far anough.

DB

 

[Skeet]

See...we know what were on about!!!!
Good one DB....tell Guppy thanks for the HALO bits, and hope she feels better soon.