Where to get...

[xDansomee]

Hey guys,

Anyone know where I can get a large CO2 tank from, the ones you use to fill the smaller CO2 tanks?

Thanks, Dan.

 

[vmaxnick]

You rent them from BOC/ Air supplies or similar (Liquid delivery CO2 £100 ish per year). You need an accurate electronic scales for filling, you need to pay for the gas (About £60 a shout for a J size bottle) you need a CO2 filling rig with purge system. You need to be over 18 to get a BOC account. You need to REALLY, REALLY know what you are doing as CO2 is dangerous!
Don't go there!
Get yourself an adapter and use disposable green gas which you can buy from shooting/paintball/airsoft/welding shops! REMEMBER: CO2 is stored as a high pressure liquid but turns into a gas when vented, it can severely burn your skin if carelessly vented, can suffocate you if vented in an enclosed space and your marker bottle can explode if overfilled.

By the by, unless you have a private organised field/woodland that you use, why do you want to fill your CO2 at home?

 

[xDansomee]

You rent them from BOC/ Air supplies or similar (Liquid delivery CO2 £100 ish per year). You need an accurate electronic scales for filling, you need to pay for the gas (About £60 a shout for a J size bottle) you need a CO2 filling rig with purge system. You need to be over 18 to get a BOC account. You need to REALLY, REALLY know what you are doing as CO2 is dangerous!
Don't go there!
Get yourself an adapter and use disposable green gas which you can buy from shooting/paintball/airsoft/welding shops! REMEMBER: CO2 is stored as a high pressure liquid but turns into a gas when vented, it can severely burn your skin if carelessly vented, can suffocate you if vented in an enclosed space and your marker bottle can explode if overfilled.

By the by, unless you have a private organised field/woodland that you use, why do you want to fill your CO2 at home?

Yeah, me and some friends do have a private paintball field, and we were just looking for easier ways to fill our tanks, as currently we usually have to travel for around 30 mins, and then get our tanks filled at £5 a piece which works out quite a lot for 8 or so tanks!

So... Your saying don't try and fill them with a larger tank yourself, just get someone else who is trained to do them etc?

Sorry if I mis-read.

Thanks, Dan.

 

[Sid Sidgwick]

Yeah, me and some friends do have a private paintball field, and we were just looking for easier ways to fill our tanks, as currently we usually have to travel for around 30 mins, and then get our tanks filled at £5 a piece which works out quite a lot for 8 or so tanks!

So... Your saying don't try and fill them with a larger tank yourself, just get someone else who is trained to do them etc?

Sorry if I mis-read.

Thanks, Dan.

Id see if the place that fills them now will do some kind of bulk deal on fills with you, say buy 5 fills get 3 free Its better to get a trained professional to do it as a fiver might seem high but im sure you value your arms and legs more.

 

[xDansomee]

Id see if the place that fills them now will do some kind of bulk deal on fills with you, say buy 5 fills get 3 free Its better to get a trained professional to do it as a fiver might seem high but im sure you value your arms and legs more.

Thanks for the help mate, I think we may just stick to our current method...

Yeah, i'm sure we could get some kind of cheap deal etc.

Also, if we get like 20-30 tanks filled at once, can they be stored for like a week or so, or do they have to be used on the same day etc?

Thanks.

 

[vmaxnick]

Yes CO2 will store fine for quite some time. Stick your empty CO2 cylinders in the fridge overnight before taking them for filling, then transport them in a cool bag as they will take a better fill when cold.
I would suggest the dive cylinder/air option but as you are so young I think it's inadvisable.
I think your best option would be the greengass disposable CO2 bottles. You can Google it, I think there are plenty on ebay which do it and supply the marker adapters too.

 

[vmaxnick]

Yeah, me and some friends do have a private paintball field, and we were just looking for easier ways to fill our tanks, as currently we usually have to travel for around 30 mins, and then get our tanks filled at £5 a piece which works out quite a lot for 8 or so tanks!

So... Your saying don't try and fill them with a larger tank yourself, just get someone else who is trained to do them etc?

Sorry if I mis-read.

Thanks, Dan.

CO2 cannot simply be filled from a big bottle into a smaller bottle and so on because it is stored as a liquid but vented as a gas. Don't try to mess with these bad boys because they are all different some bottles are siphon, some are not and the dangers involved with compressed bulk gasses is just phenomenal.
I was a trained air-smith for an RAF Hospital when I was younger yet I have still had accidents with compressed gasses that would make your eyes water.
I don't want to give you details on how the various gasses act because it would be a little bit of knowledge which could build false confidence.
For my 2p; I would invest in a bunch of pump action markers for the private stuff (They will last for ever on a 20oz CO2) and are one hell of a grin if you all use the same, keep your semi markers for walkons and games. (Using pumps will make you brave and teach you tactics)

 

[xDansomee]

Oh okays mate, it wouldn't be me filling anyway, but mehh...

Just for ease and safety reasons, i'll probs just get someone else to fill it, who is trained and qualified.

Hmm using a pump would be cool, but i'm not looking into buying another marker just yet, even how cheap they are... But some people I know are just buying some cheap markers to use on the private paintball field.

So, it would be pointless all of them getting pumps, and me using a semi mech

Ahh, btw... I was wandering, do you have any of the stuff I need here? http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=128646

-Dan

 

[Gee Tee]

Filling your own CO2 cylinders is safe, provided you have the right equipment and are shown how to do it properly. We used to fill our own tanks for years back in the 90's, both at home and at sites, but if you are running high end semi's (EP) I would stick with HPA. It's also heading for winter & CO2 sucks in cold weather.

You'll need

A bulk tank - rented from BOC
Quality fill/dump/purge CO2 rig
Set of digital weighing scales
Gloves
A well ventilated - preferably outdoor location
In test Pi marked CO2 bottles
Spare bottle o-rings
Someone to show you correct and safe method of filling

Health & Safety regs are much tighter now so it may be simpler to stick with HPA

 

[vmaxnick]

Filling your own CO2 cylinders is safe, provided you have the right equipment and are shown how to do it properly. We used to fill our own tanks for years back in the 90's, both at home and at sites, but if you are running high end semi's (EP) I would stick with HPA. It's also heading for winter & CO2 sucks in cold weather.

You'll need

A bulk tank - rented from BOC
Quality fill/dump/purge CO2 rig
Set of digital weighing scales
Gloves
A well ventilated - preferably outdoor location
In test Pi marked CO2 bottles
Spare bottle o-rings
Someone to show you correct and safe method of filling

Health & Safety regs are much tighter now so it may be simpler to stick with HPA

I agree with all of the above CO2 is safer than HPA which is why the regs for CO2 are less (Until recently CO2 bulk cylinders were tested for 20 years, very small; under 12oz I think are still not subject to testing) CO2 cylinders are only compressed to around 1000psi it's just that training is required for the filling because it is complicated and the characteristics of the gas/liquid are dangerous whereas an HPA rig is quite straightforward but the potential for serious accident is much greater!