Campaign 09 Feedback (previously known as "Ulrich is a tw*t").

[Robbo]

Dusty what Piper said I actually emailed Paula about something else today and she replied letting me know she was monitoring this thread and asked everyone to contact her.

I was originally asking for direct contacts for the Millennium board so as to save Paula the hassle. But she makes a good point. She is the point of contact. Also sending emails/letters to each board member will just create a mess. With Paula coordinating it things will go much smoother.



Oh ye of little faith Pete

Because Paula is aware of this thread, and because I've already emailed her my feedback and she's anticipating more, and coz she's a star and I have faith in her, (as Im sure Piper and others do) I know she'll get us a response.

Also I won't let this one drop. It needs a proper response from Barry Fuggle and potentially the entire Millennium board. For their own good as well as ours. They have to realise that for every success like Malaga there is continued ball fumbling with Basildon. Unless they start listening to us and act upon it they'll find it hurts them where they will feel it most. Their wallets. Besides if you look at what we are asking for its not "really" that much we are asking for.

Plus I think they really do want the feedback, as I do know who he was (but I know he was a Millennium board member) I had an older gentlemen asking me at the bar what I thought of the event, how things were going, who I was and my team. Pretty sure he wasn't vying for a sugar daddy role lol

Echo, I genuinely do not want to come across as patronising in any way and I genuinely don't mean to be but....... you have a lot to learn mate regrading the machinations of the Millennium.

I know these guys extremely well, and have known them all for well over 15 years and been friends with them all, except Mannfred, who I don't really know so well.
My point?

They genuinely do mean well and also want to do the right thing but ........ the right words may be heard in response to your emails but it won't fundamentally change diddly squat .... and I'd really love to be wrong with this one, I really would.

 

[Echowitch]

I know its a long shot but Im willing to give it a try and see if it pays off. (Its got to have better odds than my lottery tickets lol) Besides if we don't try we have no chance of success.

Jay I was thinking last year's Malaga. But also this years success in Malaga was the new fields.

 

[OmniM]

I know its a long shot but Im willing to give it a try and see if it pays off. (Its got to have better odds than my lottery tickets lol) Besides if we don't try we have no chance of success.

Dont ....

 

[Syd (NSPL)]

Jay I was thinking last year's Malaga. But also this years success in Malaga was the new fields.

Ha ha! HA HA!!!

 

[JF21]

I know its a long shot but Im willing to give it a try and see if it pays off. (Its got to have better odds than my lottery tickets lol) Besides if we don't try we have no chance of success.

Jay I was thinking last year's Malaga. But also this years success in Malaga was the new fields.

Yer netting that takes its self down is helpful. Its a shame it doesn't wait till we have stopped playing.

It annoys me when people jump on band wagons either way. Either deciding events they never went to were amazing or others suck because one or two people said so (the NEC year springs to mind, i felt that was well laid out plenty of bins toilets seating and an intelligent layout to the trade area yet people still moaned.

Anyway i digress, i guess your email should work, after all most the players and vendors decided they didn't want to go to turkey they let the millennium know and the millennium comity did what the people wanted and moved the event to Vegas.

 

[onasilverbike]

Yer netting that takes its self down is helpful. Its a shame it doesn't wait till we have stopped playing.

It annoys me when people jump on band wagons either way. Either deciding events they never went to were amazing or others suck because one or two people said so (the NEC year springs to mind, i felt that was well laid out plenty of bins toilets seating and an intelligent layout to the trade area yet people still moaned.

Anyway i digress, i guess your email should work, after all most the players and vendors decided they didn't want to go to turkey they let the millennium know and the millennium comity did what the people wanted and moved the event to Vegas.

I seem to recall the "official" reason for the NEC not being used again was because of the costs for foreign teams, ironic that!

 

[Freddie Brockdorff]

The sole reason for the Millennium Series not getting any better but quite the contrary over the past season(s) is NOT that they don´t listen - no it´s actually because there is not a majority of the teams (and owners!)/players willing to do something about it, simply as ! Why should they change something when only a small percentage of the customers are actually officially complaining about the state of things and seriously (!) trying to do something about it, but instead only moan about it on various paintball forums ?

If a greater deal of the lazy paintballers out there would have joined together and had supported just one of the many attempts over the years of actually trying to help making the series better both for the players, teams AND the series itself - well then we would have had a totally different and much better league already !

That being said Campaign really wasn´t that bad - everything worked pretty okay, fields were okay, reffing were okay, venue was okay, layout was okay, food was okay..... You see a red line here ? Okay - but for the money people spend on this up to 5 times a year, well then they should get more than okay, no ? But again said - nothing will get changed until people start doing something about it and actually start working for it !

 

[Mark Toye-Nexus]

I thought it was Okay, but disagree with the layout comment. It totally lacked any focus. Div 2 and 3 were cast out to what felt like another venue.

It just didnt feel like there was anything going on because it was poorly laid out.

At least parking was good and convenient though it might have got interesting if it had been tipping it down!

 

[Echowitch]

Yer netting that takes its self down is helpful. Its a shame it doesn't wait till we have stopped playing.

Negative much Jay ?? As I recall the new inflatable fields were well received and seen as a success. Also I heard a lot of glowing reports about them this weekend as well. I also thought they were really good when I got to see them up close.

Am i jumping on the band wagon ? No.....how am I ? I pointed out something the Millennium did that people thought was good. Malaga last year was a good event by all accounts, with people liking the location. The inflatable fields were seen as good, and they did'nt end up as mangled wreckage like the traditional fields did when the winds picked up.

People seem far too quick to whinge and gripe about what's perceived to be wrong with the events, and ignore anything that's positive. I'm sure if the Millennium laid on those segways they had at Campaign for everyone to ride around in so we didn't have to walk, and half naked girls (or guys) to massage players between games, people would still complain that the segways weren't fast enough, and the girls hands were too cold or you didn't like the smell of their aromatic oils

Constructive and impartial criticism rather than just whining for the sake of whining is what's needed. Im not the only one to think this, others have commented exactly the same. If we don't focus then nothing will get done. Im willing to commit my time and energy to chasing the Millennium on these issues regarding Campaign. But it needs others to post up here what they think of the event.

 

[Robbo]

I know its a long shot but Im willing to give it a try and see if it pays off. (Its got to have better odds than my lottery tickets lol) Besides if we don't try we have no chance of success.

Jay I was thinking last year's Malaga. But also this years success in Malaga was the new fields.

We live in hope ..... in fact, you might have a tad more chance this time around in what could only be described as a 'gesture' .... you might get something small done [and probably inconsequential that won't cost much time or money] to quell the rumblings of the masses ... I'm sure you get the picture.

There is I'm afraid only one real pressure point that can be of use in this situation and it's competition.

Oh my, now there's a massive dollop of irony I've just noticed ..... the Millennium is a competition without competition ....