Events, or too many events? ... Now that is the question !

[Leezo]

If you talk in terms of the Federation there are only 2 events, Masters and NSPL. That is not too many events cos your catering for the North/Midlands and the South which is fair enough and as has been said a finale in the terms of the Championship.
I know of the CPPS and is it FREEKZ or some other tournament much further down south. Now in terms of location except Scotland they are spread quite nicely around the UK for all teams to attend and play.
IMO there isn't too many events cos everyone has a chance to play and not too far to travel but if your looking at too many events then the focus comes down to what the Federation is trying to do and therefore only 2 events.

You cant stop other people running events and teams will choose which series they want to play for there own reason. Obviously if there is a chance of prizes at each event and ultimately a chance of a bigger prize then teams are gonna go along that line and raise their game to compete.

 

[jack_judge]

We need a series that encourages teams and players to train as well as playing 1 event every month.

 

[loz 40]

The P A League

When the Paintball Association was running its league with a strict set of rules and locked divs rostered teams with transfer procedures it was a great idea.

You entered your team to represnt your city and you committed to the 6 legs with the prospect of promotion or relegation up and down the 4 divs.

Idea was great 10 teams locked in so 9 games and all played in half day sessions super quick turnarounds.

Some good teams in that league and a good spread from all areas of the uk shame it fell apart.

In theory it should be the way forward a structured league with properly rostered teams and a goal to win and become UK League Champions.

For those who played it im sure most would agree it was a great format.

Maybe the Federation could create a UK League then the best teams could play to be the best.

Or it could be a split league North Midlands South like the old Woodland system with a league cup play off where best 3 from each div meet the other 3 teams to play a final for overall standings.

It did attract some serious outside interest and sponsors initially just lost its way for arious reasons.

Loz

 

[pid]

Idea was great 10 teams locked in so 9 games and all played in half day sessions super quick turnarounds.

Some good teams in that league and a good spread from all areas of the uk shame it fell apart.

In theory it should be the way forward a structured league with properly rostered teams and a goal to win and become UK League Champions.

For those who played it im sure most would agree it was a great format.

Maybe the Federation could create a UK League then the best teams could play to be the best.

Or it could be a split league North Midlands South like the old Woodland system with a league cup play off where best 3 from each div meet the other 3 teams to play a final for overall standings.

It did attract some serious outside interest and sponsors initially just lost its way for arious reasons.

Loz

this is what the UKMasters does currently with xball and 5man. structured timetable etc. However getting teams to be on the field on time is the issue mainly.
I do agree though, if you have some robust structure, good prizes that are worth playing for, although that varies on your definition of "worth" (i.e cash, trophy, paint etc).

As a whole, a north & south league works great. Distance equal for everyone, same rules etc & one big event for outright winners. But as stated people will always travel to whatever they choose to play whether it be 1 of the 5ish events around at the moment. And if everyone turned round and said lets just have say 2 (north & south) what would happen to the other tourney's out there and what they give for the teams. Will it quell the number of teams playing? or potentially lose the organiser money and lets face it, it's a business too. I've yet to meet an event organiser that does truthfully make any money from an event. And if they lose out i can only guess will impact other aspects too.
I think.

 

[little c]

tourney's

there are a lot small event happening all over now, but the federation needs to take control by trying to get them to be come feeder events for the masters and nspl( and other/s ). then the federation should run an event as well (ie super league) for the top teams in the masters/nspl/others ) stutured like the pa was for teams to progress , because there is no goal for teams . as people go on about cash and prizes , get as many trade stands there as possible and big companies( wdp / eclipse/smartparts/dye ) in the sport to back this and what ever they pay or supply use as prizes . i've been playing for yrs now and watch the sport progress from the masters and bully's in the woods to hyper ball and as we all know it supair . but the cpps as done the most this yr to bring paintball to the public eye in the uk , by there last 2 big events mostly being blackpool on the beach . but as other people have already send you cannot stop events and where teams go and play but if they wanted to be the best of the best . you would want to play the uk's best .( a super league)

 

[Tony Harrison]

No, there are not too many events.

What has occurred this year are positive steps towards standardisation - that is, Mill rules and 10bps.

Generally speaking, what tournament players now have is a choice - dictated by 3 elements:-

1. Your commitment
2. Your wallet
3. Your geographical location

For example, if you are a new team that is just starting out and you are based in the South, you will probably play the NSPL once a month, and maybe train once a month.

The length of your shelf life as a team is then dictated by the commitment of your players.

If, on the other hand, you are So Manc, you will spend a year training solidly in muddy locations, then spend the next year playing pretty much everything. And winning, or placing well. And then train when you are not playing.

The UK still has the capability to produce quality players and teams. What we need now is organisation - an Academy system backed by a player database, along the lines of APPA.

 

[BigDaveUK]

I would say we`re not far off the idea set-up,

North, Midlands and south leagues (and Scotland and ireland), run to a uniform set of regs and divisions etc.

1 event per month, maybe on the same date, to encourage players to train the other 3weekends.

then a National finals at the end of the season for the top teams from each division of each league.

If that makes any sense!?!

Throw in the odd publicity event a la Blackpool, and we`re on a winner.

Just my 2p

 

[Tom Allen]

Similar to what dave has just said we need events that can cater for their catchment area, north, south, east and west. then play in a big arena for the bucks.
So yes we have too many events, but maybe not enough venues. If all the venues had one aim in mind, rather than their own agenda this would cement the Federation firmly into paintball history.
I remember this was mulled over 5 or so years ago and laughed at by most of the populus of this forum, funny how the tide turns.

 

[PortoX]

Similar to what dave has just said we need events that can cater for their catchment area, north, south, east and west. then play in a big arena for the bucks.
So yes we have too many events, but maybe not enough venues. If all the venues had one aim in mind, rather than their own agenda this would cement the Federation firmly into paintball history.
I remember this was mulled over 5 or so years ago and laughed at by most of the populus of this forum, funny how the tide turns.

It sounds sad but, it probably is still laughed at by a few.

I'm in agreement with the majority here. Possibly not putting them on the same weekends as some teams still travel down south to get the varied competition and visa verse for the southern teams coming up north. Probably having the events within a fortnight of each other then its a case of one week up north then one week for south.

Just my 2 pence on that angle.

 

[Dark Warrior]

Do we have to many events?
This year we have had 50% less events than we had in 2005 (probably the busiest year ever in UK SupAir paintball history) and less than every year subsequent to 2005.

Currently we do not have enough teams to justify a north, south, east & west split in association with IPA & SPA.

My suggestion

16 team premier league 2 divisions of 8 vetted teams
4-6 events played at prestigious venues e.g Blackpool
Locked divisions only
End of year top teams get lets say free entry and runner up reduced entry into all Millenium events
Bottom team is relegated back to respective Standard League

Standard Leagues
North - South - IPA & SPA run 4-6 events during year leading to 2 day cup event
Only 16 teams qualify - winner promoted "after vetting" to premier league

Now for the controversial ideas
Teams must register and play with one league only for that year.
Standard League events held on same days (different to Premier league and Mill dates wherever possible)
All players must have UKPSF/Fed Photo ID's to be eligible to play any event - any new players must bring photo and registration fee to event to be able to play


That's my basic overview - obviously there are a lot of finer points to sort out