So you have based your own opinion from what you have read or have you shot the gun/ paint?
50 Caliber Revolution
- Thread starter GiMilsim
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Piper, to be fair, can you really blame the vast amount of scepticism floating around.
Talks of 50Cal release has been going for a year now, all that has been posted is a bunch of vids consisting of various inconsistent tests. They have a couple of pro players shooting this new size paintballs on a range or down a field, telling everyone how good they are, then you get some billy boy doing random tests which tells everyone how much they suck.
Data sheets that have figures which the mojority of consumers do not understand, how acurate is this data. End of day, these figures are only figures, they are for marketing purposes, and we all know how companies try to make products sound much better than they are.
I can understand if this marketing was purely aimed at field owners, helping them with a bigger profit margin. Like most people say, what does the average punter care, they will still have a good day out for the same price, but using smaller size paintballs.
For a walk-on or tournament player, they would need to see with there own eyes or actually play on field, judge for themselves whether the performance of 50cal lives up to all this hype. Not only that, they would also need to see how much they could save on the cost of 50cal paint compared to 68cal to show what they could benifit in regards to buying new equipment.
We all know 68cal will still be around for a long time yet, what is worrying is if walk-on players turn up at there regular site with there 68cal kit, just to find out the site will only cater 50cal paint in the near future, and you have to buy paint from site.
Same with tournaments, how long till events will say every player needs to shoot 50cal ? It would be hard to imagine having to different size paint on field.
If there would be no advantage or dis-advantage or performance with either apart from costs, then there should'nt be a problem.
Its still early days, just throwing some of my views out.
That is my point, most people here and on other forums have formed an opinion based on what they have read, which get's my goat somewhat. The tests I have done and the sites I have seen are open to the idea and the new concept.
I have shot a .50 and a .68 side by side both at around 280 fps and the .50 shot further than the .68. Now when people read that statement they will I am sure think... he is only saying that because he has a hidden agenda who works for a company that sells the goods. What it needs is someone who has zero agenda or has not had their feathers ruffled or is not adversed to change or a new concept, to do the test, or failing that maybe I will arrange an open day and people can show up and try it themselves for free.
I have shot a .50 and a .68 side by side both at around 280 fps and the .50 shot further than the .68. Now when people read that statement they will I am sure think... he is only saying that because he has a hidden agenda who works for a company that sells the goods. What it needs is someone who has zero agenda or has not had their feathers ruffled or is not adversed to change or a new concept, to do the test, or failing that maybe I will arrange an open day and people can show up and try it themselves for free.
Im not sure if such person exists within paintball.
If you want to make a credible test without your bias spoiling it, do it like Mcarter Brown. It was clear they were happy with a certain result. But they didnt let it interfear with the method.
Show every detail of the test on video. Or as much as you can of the setup and then show the results.
Dont do it in the GI milsim style, like an advert. Showing only edited highlights.
People wont take it seriously.
it wont really save you that much if its 20% cheaper to manufacture. first of all, all the paintball companies that make paint will have to buy expensive new machines to make the balls (i guess you could upgrade, but you'd need new rollers to roll out the shell and new drums to mound the shells in.) and then your going to need to buy all new gear (barrel, hopper, marker) so looking at just shy of £400 for a cheap set up. so that's 34 paintball walkons before the kit pays for its self (through the £12 per 2 boxes per day) + how ever long it takes for the paint companies to make back the money on buying the machines.
i guess after a year if you play every week it might pay off, but thats a year hoping that 50cal is a success. when the whole rec industry runs on .68 with most sites packing over 100 markers. say for example a small paintball site has 100 markers, and they have to upgrade to 50cal. that's 100 markers that are now useless to them as no one will want them as no one is using .68 then there's the whole buying the new ones, and even at £50 for the most basic of basic straight from the factory with no middleman. that's £5k. there not going to lower paint prices after forking out £5k+ for markers and the relevant gear like the whole 100 shot tube thing, they cant be used as they hold more so there's a whole new pod setup to be put in place and packs, then recreational players will complain because they "don't think there getting there monies worth". the list will grow. that and most sites are running more than 100 markers and they don't come that cheap when there built to last.
sorry, just my 2 pence. im probably wrong on some of that but i cant see it folding over in to the rec industry. for tournament probably. a back player carrying a case of paint on the field in just 4 pods will give an advantage to teams using 50cal over .68 teams.
Like prettymuch everyone else here only thing we can go by atm are the comments and tests of those few people that have been able get their hands on the paint and equipment. Other than that we have just performance calculations on how the two calibers perform against each other.
If someone now asks me how .50 caliber performs Its quite simple. With the information thats available for me NOW it dosent seem to match .68 caliber.
When more people are able to get their hands on the gear and paint and specially larger range of paint and equipment we will be alot more informed.
You say that you have been able to get your hands on .50 caliber paint that seems to perform excelent for you. Thats then good news for .50 caliber. If you have the energy please do some sort of test or review. I'm sure lots of people would be interested in it. Either way positive comments and reviews will start comming when those good products are available for people.
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get it on...
No way would suppliers and manufacturers spend a great deal of time visiting site owners promoting .50 cal etc if it wasn't proven hardware and paint.
Given the chance to try it out at sites over the UK I am sure you would have loads of people turning up as there is so much interest. I'm already keen to try and buy!
Hope to see u up here soon Piper!
No way would suppliers and manufacturers spend a great deal of time visiting site owners promoting .50 cal etc if it wasn't proven hardware and paint.
Given the chance to try it out at sites over the UK I am sure you would have loads of people turning up as there is so much interest. I'm already keen to try and buy!
Hope to see u up here soon Piper!
Was that with the same fill as in the paintballs available at World Cup?
How much did the .50 cal paintballs you were using when you were shooting the guns side by side weigh?