Yes. Mercury is very "liquid", so has a very low viscosity. But you'll have trouble finding something with higher density. (density is mass per volume, in layman's terms, mercury is incredibly heavy)
50 Caliber Revolution
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Jay is right - viscosity (thickness) and density (heaviness) do not need to be linked in the way a lot of people assume.
the mercury example is spot on.
on the other side, hardened vegetable fat is solid (incredibly viscous) but will still float on water (low density).
a thick cornflour paste is both very viscous and dense.
the mercury example is spot on.
on the other side, hardened vegetable fat is solid (incredibly viscous) but will still float on water (low density).
a thick cornflour paste is both very viscous and dense.
.50 caliber isnt a revolution. Its just people marketing their own agenda.
So far all we have is estimated 20% lower MAP pricing for paint that dosent perform as well as .68 caliber.
There is a rumor of some magic formula for .50 caliber paint that would make it heavier and have thinner shell makin its perfomance comparable to .68 caliber. But thats just talk nothing more than ifs and buts. Also if you make .50 caliber heavier you will loose alot on possible shipping price gains to customers.
So how about all the pro .50 caliber arguments that pops up? Seems almost like when some of the arguments didnt hold out more are invented.
With .50 caliber pushed largest argument for it was that everyone will get better margins going from retail to rental sites. WTF is that? Incase you somehow enforce MAP pricing with higher margin on retail side that might be possible. Although we all know that nobody pays the map price if they are even the least involved in the sport. For rental and site side you might be able in the start to have littlebit better margin but that goes pretty soon away. The simple laws of competition with others in the same business will take care of that quite quickly. Pretty big issues on rental/site side is also the cost of buying all the new gear with no real idea if its worth it. Going .50 caliber you will have to consider also netting, insurance, goggles and so on. With walkon games there are alot of people using goggles that are not safe to be used with .50 caliber.
Going to the latest pro .50 caliber argument would be that one of the big issues is first timers getting too painful hits with .68 caliber. Even if hits would feel less with .50 caliber then who forces you to have too high fps, rof and sell rocks as paint to your field customers right now?
If I throw a group of new rental players on the field and have them play first with .68 caliber and then .50caliber witch one do you think they pick even .50 caliber is 20% cheaper? They will always pick .68 caliber for the simple reason that with the larger paint size you get alot more feeling to the playing with the paint flying at and from you. Atleast over here rentals dont shoot that much paint either making the price difference next to nothing. This is also assuming the paint is equal in performance.
Cheaper equipment? How would that be possible? You just have smaller bore barrel and feedneck. If you want to get same performance as .68 caliber you wont get a gazillion shots out of your airtank either. Or did I miss something in the laws of physics?
Also remember if someone cant afford now to go out and play paintball with .68 paint they for sure cant afford with .50 either. If you dont have the money then simply you dont and having possibly 20% cheaper paint available wont make any difference.
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So far all we have is estimated 20% lower MAP pricing for paint that dosent perform as well as .68 caliber.
There is a rumor of some magic formula for .50 caliber paint that would make it heavier and have thinner shell makin its perfomance comparable to .68 caliber. But thats just talk nothing more than ifs and buts. Also if you make .50 caliber heavier you will loose alot on possible shipping price gains to customers.
So how about all the pro .50 caliber arguments that pops up? Seems almost like when some of the arguments didnt hold out more are invented.
With .50 caliber pushed largest argument for it was that everyone will get better margins going from retail to rental sites. WTF is that? Incase you somehow enforce MAP pricing with higher margin on retail side that might be possible. Although we all know that nobody pays the map price if they are even the least involved in the sport. For rental and site side you might be able in the start to have littlebit better margin but that goes pretty soon away. The simple laws of competition with others in the same business will take care of that quite quickly. Pretty big issues on rental/site side is also the cost of buying all the new gear with no real idea if its worth it. Going .50 caliber you will have to consider also netting, insurance, goggles and so on. With walkon games there are alot of people using goggles that are not safe to be used with .50 caliber.
Going to the latest pro .50 caliber argument would be that one of the big issues is first timers getting too painful hits with .68 caliber. Even if hits would feel less with .50 caliber then who forces you to have too high fps, rof and sell rocks as paint to your field customers right now?
If I throw a group of new rental players on the field and have them play first with .68 caliber and then .50caliber witch one do you think they pick even .50 caliber is 20% cheaper? They will always pick .68 caliber for the simple reason that with the larger paint size you get alot more feeling to the playing with the paint flying at and from you. Atleast over here rentals dont shoot that much paint either making the price difference next to nothing. This is also assuming the paint is equal in performance.
Cheaper equipment? How would that be possible? You just have smaller bore barrel and feedneck. If you want to get same performance as .68 caliber you wont get a gazillion shots out of your airtank either. Or did I miss something in the laws of physics?
Also remember if someone cant afford now to go out and play paintball with .68 paint they for sure cant afford with .50 either. If you dont have the money then simply you dont and having possibly 20% cheaper paint available wont make any difference.
www.cyclone.ax
hey this is what ive been trying to say for sum time however my poor skills dont allow me to put what i think into writing.
however i will disagree with 20% not making any diffrence. i shoot on average 2 boxes of paint on a walk on day.lets say those cost 30 quid each. thats already going to save me £12
it costs me that to travel (by taxi) so this would help out a great deal.
looking at it in larger scale of say a stag day. 30 people each firing even just 500 rounds will save a huge amount. thats if the site reduce the cost of per 100
But why should the site lower its' pricing? It's not the paintballs that they provide - they sell you an experience, paintballs are just part of it.
of course they won't lower their prices, do you guys believe the site owners are like tesco and asda. Site owners get deals on paint all the time, and i can just see them saying "we've got a deal on paint this month, so you can have your paint a bit cheaper today" i don't think so.
Wake up guys.
punters won't even notice the difference in the paint, the only comment you're going to get from a punter is "wow new guns, i'm coming back to this site"
Wake up guys.
punters won't even notice the difference in the paint, the only comment you're going to get from a punter is "wow new guns, i'm coming back to this site"
With the .50 caliber paint shown around atm you would get also paint that dosent perform as well as the regular .68 caliber. Also like I said one of the arguments has been that with .50 caliber it would be smaller step for new players to get into and try the sport. New players and rental players dont use nowhere that amount of paint that you are shooting. Not atleast over here. Thats actually something that drives them off paintball, people hauling buckets of paint at them with electros while they are using rentals.
Remember when we talk in general paintball doing badly its all from the US market view. Even when europe has had good growth and has started to actually meen something, the scale of US market is something compleatly different. Paintball started to go down in US already before the recession hit us.
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In what way does it not perform as well as .68?
Everything I have here is from the world cup and it is fine breaks on targets marks well. So I am curious as to what your comments are.
Everything we have at the moment is people commenting on different forums that when they tried/saw the .50 it didnt break as well as you would expect. There isnt yet much to go by with so few able to get their hands on the paint and equipment. With time this will for sure change and we will get better picture on .50 caliber.