According to UK regulations
If the paintball is lighter then the max velocity can be increased
.68 roughly .32g - 330ft/s
.50 roughly .24g - 380ft/s
50 Caliber Revolution
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If the paintball is lighter then the max velocity can be increased
.68 roughly .32g - 330ft/s
.50 roughly .24g - 380ft/s
I'm wondering how the mass of the .50 calibre paintball was calculated.
The surface area of a .5 to .68 sphere is almost exactly half. If this accounts for the shell and assuming the same material type and thickness, then the shell should weigh roughly half.
The volume of a .5 to .68 sphere is approximately 40%. Again, assuming the same type of fill material, then the weight would be roughly 40% of the .68 fill.
This would mean the .5 ball would weigh somewhere between 40 to 50% of that of a .68 paintball.
24 grams is 75% of the weight of the 32 gram .68 caliber ball. Now I realize this is based on the same material types, which I assume with this new engineering that has supposedly taken place, is not the case.
I assume these balls have been seen by some as they have been tested in disguise thoughout North America, so maybe the 24 grams is an actual measurement.
I am not a mathematician so my math might be wrong (actually I used those handy on-line calculators), so I am wondering if the 24 grams is an actual measurement and not just some guess.
Quick nit-pick: .68 caliber paintballs generally range from 2.8-3.2 grams. Not 28 to 32, and not .28 to .32.
Okay bro, calm down. There is a way the ball could maintain the same velocity (increase in mass through denser fill), and if the shell is made fragile enough to break easily then where's the problem? The energy from the fill will be easily dispersed on contact as it's a liquid(contrary to your rant above), so the only real issue is the frangibility of the shell. It IS a significant issue though, and I understand your skepticism. I also find it hard to imagine a .5 calibre ball that will break consistently, BUT I'm not denying that possibility until I see these things in person. I recommend you do the same.
But even a denser liquid will not disperse as quickly as a less dense liquid. Place a teaspoon of honey on a table and a teaspoon of water and observe.
Common sense tells me that a smaller object weighing the same and therefore traveling at the close to the same speed, when it hits me will hurt more. Take it to extremes and take a .1" diameter, liquid filled gelatin ball that is so dense it weighs the same as our .68 caliber paintballs and shoot it at your arm at 300 fps from 3' away. I know I'd opt out of that experimment. You might want to have a doctor stand by to surgically remove the remnants from your arm afterwards.
Well, I don't think it needs to weigh the same, since the paintball is smaller. But it does need to be denser, and denser is going to hurt more, at the same velocity.
I disagree, the consistency of the fill need not be significantly different. if you take the shell out of the equation (assuming they make a shell that breaks very easily), the fill shouldn't change things enough to make it hurt noticeably more. The only issue I see is how they make the shell fragile enough to break easily on contact. I'm unsure as to whether they'll achieve that, but I'm not going to nay-say it until I've seen it. If it's rubbish and hurts like a b@stard then I'll be pissed, if not, hooray. Simple as.
Now I know it is human nature to want to inquire, and analyze and assess and speculate but this thread and many like it I find quite amusing. Much like tech products, this hasn't dropped yet so we don't really know for a fact what it will be like.....except those who are field testing it currently but I'm sure GI MILSIM was smart enough to have them sign NDAs first.
Bottomline.....when it drops, if it doesn't fill a need or create one it will lose. It may even create it's own niche for a time then fall by the wayside once the novelty wears off. We won't know anything until the community at large gets a chance to see product in the store and hold/play with product on the field. Italia's whole notion of a revolution will either prove to be brilliant or a load of festering marketing hype.
As a businessman myself, I hope it's a brilliant success because I don't wish failure on anyone....we all have families to feed and dreams to fulfill. As a gadget junkie and gear hound I hope it delivers. It will be fun to play with something new but if it doesn't live up to the hype none of us will have to poo poo it because consumer demand will do that for us. Until then, best of luck....we'll see what happens when the rubber meets the road.
Bottomline.....when it drops, if it doesn't fill a need or create one it will lose. It may even create it's own niche for a time then fall by the wayside once the novelty wears off. We won't know anything until the community at large gets a chance to see product in the store and hold/play with product on the field. Italia's whole notion of a revolution will either prove to be brilliant or a load of festering marketing hype.
As a businessman myself, I hope it's a brilliant success because I don't wish failure on anyone....we all have families to feed and dreams to fulfill. As a gadget junkie and gear hound I hope it delivers. It will be fun to play with something new but if it doesn't live up to the hype none of us will have to poo poo it because consumer demand will do that for us. Until then, best of luck....we'll see what happens when the rubber meets the road.
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Kit manufacturers have completed some early R&D into revised pads and playing gear, specifically designed to cope with .50 cal play. Early test results on the "Rhino Scenario gear" look promising, and it should be on sale in time for worldwide launch of the smaller ball.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/3622844751_0c58d7b857.jpg?v=0
They even have a lighter version under developement specifically for X-ball
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3623664618_b6eee3839f.jpg?v=0
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Kit manufacturers have completed some early R&D into revised pads and playing gear, specifically designed to cope with .50 cal play. Early test results on the "Rhino Scenario gear" look promising, and it should be on sale in time for worldwide launch of the smaller ball.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/3622844751_0c58d7b857.jpg?v=0
They even have a lighter version under developement specifically for X-ball
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3623664618_b6eee3839f.jpg?v=0
Form an orderly queue