A Problem with God

[Robbo]

That was not my question, i asked how is it irresponsible?

Hmmmmmm.......well if you cannot see the connection then I'll spoon-feed you, I would tend to describe any point of view that is predicated upon no evidence whatsoever as kinda irresponsible, especially when that point of view is posted in a thread for debating issues such as this.........

 

[TEKLOFTY]

Hmmmmmm.......well if you cannot see the connection then I'll spoon-feed you, I would tend to describe any point of view that is predicated upon no evidence whatsoever as kinda irresponsible, especially when that point of view is posted in a thread for debating issues such as this.........

Oh, atheism has quite a lot of evidence backing it up i think you will find - besides, religion is all about belief, would you call someone who blindly believes in a religion as irresponsible as someone who does not?

 

[SJS]

Oh, atheism has quite a lot of evidence backing it up i think you will find - besides, religion is all about belief, would you call someone who blindly believes in a religion as irresponsible as someone who does not?

Religion does have scientific evidence backing it up, beleive it or not.

Things like giraffes, They bend down to drink. Blood rushes to their brain, they spot a preditor, leap up and run off. But the blood flows in the brain are all messed up and the Girrafe would black out.

Now, Girrafes have a sponge like substance behind their brains to stop this from happening. Think about it, at the very begining (according to evolution) the girrafe will not have had this "sponge substance". So in order for the girrafe to have "evolved" this sponge it must have blacked out. But by blacking out it gets eaten by its preditor, therefore it is impossible for the giraffe to have "evolved" the sponge substance.

Something must have put it there. Some form of creator.

 

[TEKLOFTY]

Religion does have scientific evidence backing it up, beleive it or not.

Things like giraffes, They bend down to drink. Blood rushes to their brain, they spot a preditor, leap up and run off. But the blood flows in the brain are all messed up and the Girrafe would black out.

Now, Girrafes have a sponge like substance behind their brains to stop this from happening. Think about it, at the very begining (according to evolution) the girrafe will not have had this "sponge substance". So in order for the girrafe to have "evolved" this sponge it must have blacked out. But by blacking out it gets eaten by its preditor, therefore it is impossible for the giraffe to have "evolved" the sponge substance.

Something must have put it there. Some form of creator.

I wasn’t clear, sorry. Many parts of religion are about belief, and yes there is some science backing it up; but that really was not the point of what i said in the first place - i am trying to ascertain how not believing in a creator is irresponsible, to some people maybe it is stupid - but 'irresponsible'? That makes very little sense - my question was pretty much based purely on semantics.

 

[uncle_osiris]

Religion does have scientific evidence backing it up, beleive it or not.

Things like giraffes, They bend down to drink. Blood rushes to their brain, they spot a preditor, leap up and run off. But the blood flows in the brain are all messed up and the Girrafe would black out.

Now, Girrafes have a sponge like substance behind their brains to stop this from happening. Think about it, at the very begining (according to evolution) the girrafe will not have had this "sponge substance". So in order for the girrafe to have "evolved" this sponge it must have blacked out. But by blacking out it gets eaten by its preditor, therefore it is impossible for the giraffe to have "evolved" the sponge substance.

Something must have put it there. Some form of creator.

Thats assuming that girrafes have always had long necks.

 

[TEKLOFTY]

Thats assuming that girrafes have always had long necks.

The giraffe question is an old one, and part of the problem of identifying the evolutionary record of the Long Necked Giraffe is that there is a distinct gap in the fossil records as well as the problem mentioned by SJS.
Many palaeontologists now believe that it was probably a mutation, which would certainly account for the jump in evolution unaccounted for.

 

[SJS]

Thats assuming that girrafes have always had long necks.

Why else would they have the need for the sponge behind their brain?

 

[SJS]

The giraffe question is an old one, and part of the problem of identifying the evolutionary record of the Long Necked Giraffe is that there is a distinct gap in the fossil records as well as the problem mentioned by SJS.
Many palaeontologists now believe that it was probably a mutation, which would certainly account for the jump in evolution unaccounted for.

In which case the same goes for a bettle, i can't remember its species. It basicly has a flamethrower for a ar$e. But it's made to withstand that heat, so to evolve it needs the extreme heat from its ar$e. But in doing so it would kills itself. So how did it evolve to have the protective shell?
Again someone must have made it.

 

[TEKLOFTY]

In which case the same goes for a bettle, i can't remember its species. It basicly has a flamethrower for a ar$e. But it's made to withstand that heat, so to evolve it needs the extreme heat from its ar$e. But in doing so it kills itself.

Indeed, but if you are going to use examples to prove the existence of a creator then there are still far more that work for the contrary.

 

[SJS]

Indeed, but if you are going to use examples to prove the existence of a creator then there are still far more that work for the contrary.

I'm just stating that there is actually undeniable evidence that there must be a creator. I acknowlage that there is also undeniable evidence that there is no creator.

I'm an atheist anyways, Just putting forwards both sides.