Universe

[Robbo]

If Bon is referring to what I think he is referring to then the membrane theory which is in itself an extension of the already established string theory sounds very plausible to me.

If he is referring to Brane theory then he needs to get away from the idea of bubbles coz I have heard of theoretical sheets representing Brane theory but not bubbles.....still, it might have moved on since I last studied it.

This is exactly what this forum is for, to educate, to update, to enlighten, to confuse, to frustrate, and to explain.......well, I hope it does anyway

 

[Robbo]

Not as crazy as it sounds...

If we liken the Big Bang to an explosion, anything blasted out from the explosion will go through a (very) brief moment of acceleration, before the far longer process of slowing down (after the force driving it forwards dissipates).

So, on that notion, could the reason that the expansion of the universe is (still) accelerating be because we are still within that utterly brief moment? We are in the bright flash, rather than in the big, billowing, fiery mushroom cloud? All timed on a cosmic scale obviously...

I think, based upon the evidence thus far, the universe is about 14 billion years old, give or take a few years.
If we take a look around our universe, it's plain enough that it's quite large.
That acknowledged, it would seem the bright flash you refer to would seem to have happened long ago at around the time of the big bang.
The cosmic scale can of course be introduced to give some idea of relative time-lines but the universe as it looks, seems to be that billowing cloud of galaxies and dust.
I see what you are getting at Jay, and of course, relatively speaking, this billowing cloud we see could of course be viewed as a relative flash but classic thinking seems to default to a universe that has outgrown that phase.

 

[Rich H]

Interesting shizzle

I think about all of this quite often, has anyone else ever thought that we may just be some kind of experiment? I know it sounds stupid but i don't see why we cant be. Like what was said earlier in the thread, its near impossible that we are the only living things in the universe/whatever it is past the universe. We may just be some HUGE ass race's lil experiment or something, you know, like that episode of The Simpsons where Lisa's tooth falls out and she puts it in that pot, and then those little people evolve and start building a whole new world around her tooth? lol.

Another thing that made me think this was the film Men In Black, you know at the end when 'K' kicks that door open? and all we are is some little things in a locker, with much bigger things outside of it?

Like you said Pete, this forum is to educate, explain etc... So has it ever been proven that this theory is an impossibility?

Rich..

 

[Devrij]

So you're saying we're still being propelled on a huge shock wave? I think evidence of that force acting on us would be evident somewhere, but you never know.

My interpretation would be that, much like air into a vacuum, the universe is filling the space around it.....assuming of course that there is space around it.

So..... contrary to my theory where we run out of mass to fill the gaps and are torn apart, the mass is spread so thin that there's nothing left to power the fusion reactions in the stars so they burn out? But then what? If it continues to accelerate, surely we're gonna run out of mass to fill the increasing space eventually? Someone ask 118118

Edit:I gotta type/think faster

 

[Pmr Man]

lots of ideas, but no diffinitive proof (as with anything in life) any of you read or seen k-pax? although its a fictional thing it makes some sense (apart from the techion stuff!)

 

[TEKLOFTY]

If he is referring to Brane theory then he needs to get away from the idea of bubbles coz I have heard of theoretical sheets representing Brane theory but not bubbles.....still, it might have moved on since I last studied it.

This is exactly what this forum is for, to educate, to update, to enlighten, to confuse, to frustrate, and to explain.......well, I hope it does anyway

That's the thing i think, the idea of sheets has now apparently developed into membranes - or so i read.

 

[spangley_special]

So you're saying we're still being propelled on a huge shock wave? I think evidence of that force acting on us would be evident somewhere, but you never know.

like the evidence of us spinning at thousands of miles an hour? the evidence of us flying through space at huge velocities?

Relativity, my friend. Everything in the universe would be riding the crest of this shockwave so to evidence it would be difficult considering that everything we are able to detect or measure is also affected by it.

 

[Devrij]

like the evidence of us spinning at thousands of miles an hour? the evidence of us flying through space at huge velocities?

Relativity, my friend. Everything in the universe would be riding the crest of this shockwave so to evidence it would be difficult considering that everything we are able to detect or measure is also affected by it.

But that assumes a completely uniform force upon the entire universe, radiating from one point. I'm not discounting your theory, I'm just hypothesising that greater minds than ours aren't fooled by relative motion.

 

[Ainsley]

Mmm, one thing I've always struggled with is the expansion from the 'big bang'. Why can't a point of origin be located? From what little I know, distances in space are usually measured in light (obviously from existing or now non existent stars). They also measure the distances from galaxy to galaxy, to give some sort of scale of the expansion. Why can't they find a pattern of growth from an origin using these methods (like its that simple )?

Then again, if we're in big ball of string, I can see why it could be tricky

Its hard not to think of the universe as flat - I try and think of it like a ball of string so big, you think you're travelling in a straight line but you're not. That lets me and my simple mind kinda get to grips with wormholes and all that jazz.....

 

[Buddha 3]

I think, based upon the evidence thus far, the universe is about 14 billion years old, give or take a few years.
If we take a look around our universe, it's plain enough that it's quite large.
That acknowledged, it would seem the bright flash you refer to would seem to have happened long ago at around the time of the big bang.
The cosmic scale can of course be introduced to give some idea of relative time-lines but the universe as it looks, seems to be that billowing cloud of galaxies and dust.
I see what you are getting at Jay, and of course, relatively speaking, this billowing cloud we see could of course be viewed as a relative flash but classic thinking seems to default to a universe that has outgrown that phase.

I don't claim to know a whole lot about this stuff, just random theorising really.

On the other hand, classic thinking also defaulted to the expansion of the universe slowing down... And even more classic thinking defaulted to the earth being flat. That must mean I am right!

Seriously though, could our thoughts be limited by our standard human arrogance? We think 14 billion years is old, maybe on a cosmic scale it's nothing. But because we think it's old, it must be old. In the same way that to a fruitfly a day is comparable to forever.

Again, just random theorising.