Use Andy's advice first. A stronger main spring (between the hammer and the bolt) will yield higher velocity I think.
Ressurecting a 1992 Phantom
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Your right, until you take all the old parts out in 1994 and throw them away, because you progress along with cutting edge technology, like everyone else
My memory fails me.
I seem to remember that having a heavier bolt spring and a softer power spring will achieve higher velocity as the harder bolt whacking back onto the softer spring keeps it open for longer and hence releases more gas?
Sounds good but then i've been wrong before
That's what I meant, maybe I didn't communicate very well.My memory fails me.
I seem to remember that having a heavier bolt spring and a softer power spring will achieve higher velocity as the harder bolt whacking back onto the softer spring keeps it open for longer and hence releases more gas?
Sounds good but then i've been wrong before
I think most people tend to keep their powerstem spring constant, and change their main spring (what you refer to as a bolt spring) so that they always have a constant powerstem spring as reference when they get new main springs etc.
Its the ratio between the front spring and back spring, the front spring controls how hard the hammer pushes on the power stem. The rear spring controls how hard the power stem pushes back. So between the two its how fast and for how long the powerstem is open.
The Front spring is what you should change to adjust the velocity. you only change the rear spring if you've gone through the range of front springs and not got the velocity you want. Softening the rear spring means the powerstem opens quicker and for longer, so a softer rear spring should increase velocity. and a harder front spring should do the same but by smaller amounts.
This is all from memory as my phantoms are 1991 original which has a dialer and another with 2008 internals, Which also have a dialer, to be honest never heard of a phantom without one. the anti kink was just a tube extension on the dialer.
The Front spring is what you should change to adjust the velocity. you only change the rear spring if you've gone through the range of front springs and not got the velocity you want. Softening the rear spring means the powerstem opens quicker and for longer, so a softer rear spring should increase velocity. and a harder front spring should do the same but by smaller amounts.
This is all from memory as my phantoms are 1991 original which has a dialer and another with 2008 internals, Which also have a dialer, to be honest never heard of a phantom without one. the anti kink was just a tube extension on the dialer.
CO2 or Air
The original spring kits were designed to get CO2 to work on winter days like today (with clouds of vapour & bearly seeing what your shooting at) and have the variablity to shoot in the middle of summer and cope with the pressure output diffences of CO2.......550psi at 2C and 850psi at 70C
To be honest if you are using HP (set at 850psi) air, you do not need the same variablity and you should find its sweet spot pretty quick with mid-weight springs or at least start with and then play with the front or the dialler/anti-kink - if it rotates and compresses the bolt spring it is a dialler
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2dynamics.shtml#4
is that a metal or nylon grub screw in the bolt?
So no hex or slot to receive a dialer rod? - or it has be "perminently fixed" by someone in it past?
The original spring kits were designed to get CO2 to work on winter days like today (with clouds of vapour & bearly seeing what your shooting at) and have the variablity to shoot in the middle of summer and cope with the pressure output diffences of CO2.......550psi at 2C and 850psi at 70C
To be honest if you are using HP (set at 850psi) air, you do not need the same variablity and you should find its sweet spot pretty quick with mid-weight springs or at least start with and then play with the front or the dialler/anti-kink - if it rotates and compresses the bolt spring it is a dialler
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2dynamics.shtml#4
is that a metal or nylon grub screw in the bolt?
So no hex or slot to receive a dialer rod? - or it has be "perminently fixed" by someone in it past?
I should have taken a picture end on to show a big fat hole thru the bolt and hammer with no dialer in whatsoever, it's all in the springs!
"this is hardcore old skool baby"!
"this is hardcore old skool baby"!
Hmm that's a weird one, my anti kink kit kept the dialer. I hope my rough guide to the springs helps somewhat.
I replaced everything on one of my phantoms with the brand new internal design from CCI. If in doubt go to their website and email Mike Cassidy he is the phantom Guru having designed and made the thing. He's also very friendly and helpful.
Brasso is good for polishing rusty internals, especially the brasso wool.
I replaced everything on one of my phantoms with the brand new internal design from CCI. If in doubt go to their website and email Mike Cassidy he is the phantom Guru having designed and made the thing. He's also very friendly and helpful.
Brasso is good for polishing rusty internals, especially the brasso wool.