Question ...

[Robbo]

I know this topic is gonna be in the wrong forum but there are reasons for me doing this, one of which is, i think it will broaden up to encompass other areas.
Anyway, as a lot of you will know, I used to write articles for PGi, did so for over 18 years in fact and I loved every minute.
My boss, Matt Tudor used to sometimes go mad at me for writing some of the things I used to but I never forgot one of his guiding pieces of wisdom and that was, 'Pete, when you write an article, I want half the readers to agree with it and the other half to be against it' .
Basically he wanted the articles to provoke debate, he saw that as healthy and whilst I never really wrote to this template, I think a lot of them maybe achieved what he wished, by default and not design.
Anyways, point is this, I still have a lot to teach people and one of the best ways I feel is by what's called the Socratic method and what's good for a Greek ancient, is good for me and so here goes :-

What do you guys think of tactics when it comes to paintball?
How much of a game can be contributed to tactics in terms of outcome, I mean is the game of paintball determined 50% technique - 50% tactics ?
Does a team need tactics?
How sophisticated should they be?


I want as many people as possible to contribute because it is only by canvassing opinions across the board will we sort this out ...so whatever you think, it doesn't matter if it sounds silly as hell, put it down and I'll make sure nobody gets flamed .... well unless Piper tries to tell us anything

 

[RainbowShooter]

Not that my view counts for much but anyway. I think tactics are the core element to any game of paintball, be it woodland or sup'air. It goes back to the survival of the fittest type theories which are demonstrated in animals as well as humans and our need to survive "in battle".

As with anything you can't go on a "field" not knowing how to play but you also can't go on not knowing what to do or what the hell is going on. If a team are a team then just by the nature of a team they will have tactics even if it's just the fastest runner up at the front. The sophistication of it all, I personally feel is decided by the level your team plays/wants to play at, obviously more complex with the higher divisions and experience of the players.

Sorry if that made no sense at all.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

dotn have much time going to work soon will answer briefly as i can.

What do you guys think of tactics when it comes to paintball?
How much of a game can be contributed to tactics in terms of outcome, I mean is the game of paintball determined 50% technique - 50% tactics ?

i personally beleive that a team does need tactics in the way of a game plan, as a team game, with objectives to conquer and ofcourse certain key areas on the playing field teams again and again, will work out a strategy to get players to certain areas on the fields, to suppress certain areas and also to find the killing zones and also the laning points are also creating a strategy whether the players know it or not...as their planning ahead. Again though i beleive technique is very important aswell, you can get some great players out their, ones which know when to move, when to bunker and when to provide the right cover and shooting, skills like that play an important part to any game and as such i would view these skills as techniques of the player.

How sophisticated should they be?

i beleive also that the tactics can be as the players choose them to be, if they want a strict game plan they can try and make it work or if they want a free flowing game plan where they play against what emerges then they can do that, in terms of sophistication for myself, i dont like it been too sophisticated as it can sometimes affect your judgement on field in certain situations you find yourselve in.


...well off to work, will come back to this when i get a chance

 

[danrandon]

damn.... if only i could remember what you said word for word back in 95

i know that you used the word PMT a lot

Paint... Movement.... Technique

 

[Robbo]

damn.... if only i could remember what you said word for word back in 95

i know that you used the word PMT a lot

Paint... Movement.... Technique

It was 05 not 95

And yes, you are right, I did say 'PMT' which meant what you said .....

Hmmm, funny that.....not a mention of the word 'tactics' in sight ...hmmm what could that mean?

I asked you guys to imprint PMT in yer heads and never forget it, and this was a mantra for all ballers, no matter what level ..... is the omission significant or deliberate?

 

[danrandon]

damn fingers, can't type properly. sorry it was 05.

see the brain washing worked Pete.

there was mention of tatics, broken down into 3 sections

game start
mid game
and end game

will try to troll my memory banks when not at work.

PMT from what i remember

shoot paint to allow movement to allow you to use technique and repeat

 

[Cusack]

i think a team with awesome technique and no tactics will lose against a team with average technique and good tactics.

that is in my opinion, working together, exploiting weaknesses and having the right game plan is of high importance

Why the legion then dont always win.. i don't know cus i'm pretty sure they have tactics and technique

 

[danrandon]

from what i also i have managed to drag from my aging booze riddled brain.

correct me if i'm wrong please pete.

but tactics mean jack S h1t if you don't have the technique.

sure there are game plans and ways to close games quickly and properly but these mainly require technique rather than tactics.

 

[Cusack]

I agree, I mean you have to have a certain level of technique, some pansy ass gun fighter will just get put in and have no chance of exercising his awesome tactics

 

[Marcus Geezer]

What do you guys think of tactics when it comes to paintball?

Regardless of whether you are playing woodsball for a bit of a laugh, or about to go into a major sup'air tourney, a lack of a game plan would generally equal no win.

How much of a game can be contributed to tactics in terms of outcome, I mean is the game of paintball determined 50% technique - 50% tactics ?

I think it is a 60% tactics and a 40% technique. When I've been thrown in with unfamiliar faces where no real game plan has been formed, no matter how good you are individually you can get raped by a team whose individual skills could perhaps be at a lower level than yours, only becuase they play well together.

Does a team need tactics?

Every game I've played at the very least we've discussed what we are gonna do off the break, and then a consideration of what happens after and this is backed up by the team training which should have taught you basic tactics on playing as a team, which would include contigencies when you lose players. No matter how basic this game plan or set of tactics is, it keeps people structured and I think provides a team motivation to win the game.

Remove the tactics ingrained into you from training and the tactics discussed on the day based upon the field layout, and you have five headless chickens throwing paint.

How sophisticated should they be?

I'm a strong beleiver in the keep it simple theory and in the apparent choas of a a game, every man needs to have his job to do which should fit in with the overall job's of everyone else. Make these too complicated and it can make a well structered team into a choatic hen night out.

My 2p's worth. Hope helpful.