Softest marker on paint?

[Rabies]

Better still, enlist the help of your teammates: you can test more than 10 guns, and you still get to go home with all of your own fingers intact

 

[Bolter]

level 10 x valves for AGD markers have been out for ages (2002/3 I think). You can put your tongue in the breach and fire the gun, and all that will happen is a "tsssk tsssk" noise. John Sosta was pictured in PGI a while back demonstrating it.

LvL 10 ftw!

 

[Rabies]

Only if your tongue is at the BACK of the breach. Put it at the front instead, and you will lose a chunk of your tongue

 

[sumo89]

the vibe is meant to be very soft on paint as well.

 

[Bolter]

Only if your tongue is at the BACK of the breach. Put it at the front instead, and you will lose a chunk of your tongue

lol thats true , but to be fair a paintball wouldn't sit that far forward unless the detents were removed.

 

[Dark Stranger]

Comparing LPR pressures of one gun to the next is meaningless, since it is acting on a different area in each design (and in some designs, a different area at different points during the firing cycle.) LPR pressure alone is not adequate to express the force the bolt puts on the ball.

Likewise, main pressure is also inadequate to show how much stress the ball is under when fired, because it all depends on how that air is released and what pressure it is actually under at the point at which it accelerates the ball. That sort of information is unlikely to be published by any of the manufacturers.

The only way to find out for real is to get a load of different guns and some of the brittlest paint you can find and see which ones can shoot it. There are too many variables, unpublished, untested or unquantifiable, to do it as a straightforward table of figures.

Thanks

I find it strange that nothing along the above lines has been done by anyone yet.

I am sure any reputable manufacturer would run their own tests during R&D although these would obviously never be made public.

I was hoping some sciency type with lots of time and testing equipment would have run some tests at some point in the past? (Force applied to ball by bolt cycle, effect of high pressure air on structure of ball, blowback etc)

I appreciate there are many, many variables involved but if you had the time, money and patience I am sure some interesting figures could be obtained?

 

[arg1271]

I'd have to side with the Angel A1 as well from experience. We had some particularly dodgy(possibly brittle) paint, my etek which had been pretty flawless up to that point couldn't shoot it, other guys on PMs, DMs and egos were in the same boat but another team-mate with an A1 had no problems at all.

 

[Dark Stranger]

I'd have to side with the Angel A1 as well from experience. We had some particularly dodgy(possibly brittle) paint, my etek which had been pretty flawless up to that point couldn't shoot it, other guys on PMs, DMs and egos were in the same boat but another team-mate with an A1 had no problems at all.

But then I have seen the same thing in reverse, with the Ego's / DM's running fine and some A1's shooting soup. (Not an Angel bash BTW)

That is why it would be nice to have some cold hard facts about what gat can shoot the most brittle paint in a test environment.

I am also noticing that ever common trend where whatever marker you own / have owned is the better performer

I think I am peeing in the wind here

 

[Dusty]

I have recently owned an Ego7, DM7 and Angel 1.

The angel, i can't honestly remember the last time I broke a ball, but I have only ever really used decent paint (draxxus blaze) and I believe it is as much to do with that as anything.The only time i had trouble was when my loader went down once mysteriously and I borrowed a pulse for the day, which gave me nothing but soup and spray from the same marker, but a v35 halo never gave any trouble at all.

the ego and dm didn't seem to break any more or less than each other. there are too many variables. you would need to use the same air bottle, same loader, fresh batteries and several markers along with the same batch of paint to give you any conclusive results.

 

[Dusty]

I have recently owned an Ego7, DM7 and Angel 1.

The angel, i can't honestly remember the last time I broke a ball, but I have only ever really used decent paint (draxxus blaze) and I believe it is as much to do with that as anything.The only time i had trouble was when my loader went down once mysteriously and I borrowed a pulse for the day, which gave me nothing but soup and spray from the same marker, but a v35 halo never gave any trouble at all.

the ego and dm didn't seem to break any more or less than each other. there are too many variables. you would need to use the same air bottle, same loader, fresh batteries and several markers along with the same batch of paint to give you any conclusive results.