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JDO

Jon & Chris rock my socks
May 13, 2008
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Exactly.

Ok JDO if clever is the wrong word, maybe I should have said something like "on the ball" because they have made a stink load of money, which is more than alot of companies in paintball. Make more sense?

Sure it does but that still doesn't make their decision ethically justifiable. This will be my last post on this thread because it's starting to feel like I'm talking in circles.
 

Exile

The Tao of Pooh
Jun 20, 2006
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Sure it does but that still doesn't make their decision ethically justifiable. This will be my last post on this thread because it's starting to feel like I'm talking in circles.
How many companies do you deal with on a day-to-day basis that operate "ethically"? ;)
 

sniperlee

my balls your chin
Feb 25, 2008
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on the field when im playing the last thing i think about is the buisness ethics of whoever made the marker im holding, if you dont look after whatever marker youve got it will cause you problems, touch wood ive never had any problem with my ion
 

ioufx

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Apr 17, 2008
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on the field when im playing the last thing i think about is the buisness ethics of whoever made the marker im holding, if you dont look after whatever marker youve got it will cause you problems, touch wood ive never had any problem with my ion
Precisely, it doesnt matter how well built your marker is, who its built by and the quality of the products and design behind it etc etc, things can still go wrong, and even more so in more expensive gats which will usually cost alot more to repair.

Smart Parts i've never personally had a problem with, but from reviews i can see there has been problems with the company alot more than the marker. If you keep good maintainance on your gat, it reduces the risk and possibility of it packing up! Just because its built by a manufacturer whos got more market share, produces greater quality products and provides better customer service doesnt neccessarily exclude the fact that problems can occur with their products or even along their grapevine. Yea, manufacturers with the higher market sre in the industry produce higher quality products which are built on the soul purpose of catering for paintballer's needs easily, more stable and securely and better build products on the whole, and quality assurance which shows us that time and effort has been placed into the gats to ensure they supply their purpose, which makes them more reliable, like dye precision for example. But problems can still occur

Obv, im looking to upgrade, but not due to any of the factors many people are outlining, i've never had any problems with my EOS, yet im upgrading to get more out of a gat because they cant provide it on their stock standards. But for the price of the gats by smart parts, theyre well in the range of newbie standards thats why you find many people with ions and alike because theyre cheap, easy to maintain, upgrade etc, even though theyre plastic...
 

impamiizgraa

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Feb 6, 2006
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Sure it does but that still doesn't make their decision ethically justifiable. This will be my last post on this thread because it's starting to feel like I'm talking in circles.
Nice guys finish last ;)

Ethics play no part in business. If you play fair - someone else won't, and they'll screw you over.
Smart Parts have done well - and slowly but surely people are less and less "anti-SP".

As far as their markers go - never had any problems with my shocker year or so back... it didn't like the wet mind you.
 

WOODY LOKI

Has been.
Oct 25, 2006
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thanks

I'm a mega noob here, but from what I understand - Smart Parts markers need a lot of upgrading to be competitive.
- This guy looks like he knows his stuff, the Smart Parts bashing (with explainations) begin at 1:40.

I dunno if this guy is actually speaking the truth, but he seems quite famous on youtube for paintball.

-Phil
thanks for finding this guy on you tube he's just amussed me for about an hour.
man he's like the hoff of paintball.

woody
 

Dark Warrior

www.paintballscene.co.uk
Nov 28, 2002
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Hi,

After lurking around for a while I`ve noticed that Smart Parts equipment tends to get bashed alot by players.
Just wondering what their past reputation has been with markers etc?

Been considering an SP-1 for a while now so dont want it to turn around and fall apart on me. :eek:
Most markers break down due to user tinkering rather than due to a flaw in manufacture. There are thousands of people out there happy with thier SP1, probably because woodland ballers don't tinker much they just service and maintain them.

Ignore comments about SP's ethics as it has no bearing on the answer to your question.
 

JDO

Jon & Chris rock my socks
May 13, 2008
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Nice guys finish last ;)

Ethics play no part in business.

I know I said above that I wouldn't be posting on this thread again, but what impamiizgraa said here just annoyed me.

impamiizgraa, If you actually believe what you said above frankly, you know very little or nothing about western business practices. Sorry for sounding so brutal, but right now I'm in the business of posting here, and playing by your rules. (Geddit? :p)

Take the example of McDonalds. After media, public and lobbyist pressure, McDonalds plc was pushed into spending no less than 2 billion USD in a global effort to win back public support and change their 'evil and wasting' corporate image. This included removing the 'Supersize' options from their menu (Which was a highly profitable venture) and cutting down on packaging and logistical waste. Now despite the US economy looking like the inside of a Spanish prostitute, they are going strong because they saved their image by making ethical decisions. See, the 'opportunity cost' as it were for being ethical was the price it cost to invest in environmentally friendly programmes, and the payoff was a sales boost as 'anti-Mcdonald's' propaganda was weakened (at least for a while) so many consumers probably thought it was ok to buy their products again.

I could sit here all day and list examples of why you're so horribly mistaken, but I think you'd probably lose interest after the first 8000. So here is a list of the UK's top ethical companies, who are financially benefitting from an improved brand image.

With Smart Parts, the story is much the time. Whether anyone actually cared about AKA going out of business or not, in the longer term it HAS (like it or not) damaged the company's sales. Ergo, Ethics IS important, and often can be used with the same connotations of brand image.

Yes, I concede that capitalism can be cut-throat, and that's not a bad thing as it often leads to lower prices for the consumer. However, for those people who go as far as to say 'ethics plays no part in business', I suggest picking up the financial times some time.