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UK fuel duty prices e-petition

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Luke W

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whoever you buy your fuel off the money is going to one of the major companies, monopolies and all that so boycotting wont work unless everyone boycotts driving for a while and we know that wont happen cos in the uk public transport is crap.

Once they do that and force people onto alternative fuels they will find something else to tax us on.

And oil is stupidly cheap in the whole scheme of things. Us boycotting one particular seller wont change things. They have the rest of the world market as well.
That's what I was trying to get at. ;)
 

snax

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The american thing is old news, to be fair yes they drive "gas guzzelers" and yes they pay far less for fuel, once again yes they kicked off with sadam coz he wanted to raise the price of oil and sh!t, but simple fact is the yanks dont change as much tax end of :D
let me reasure you, i did not mean the americans change the britsh tax, i meant petrol, but on the news is said it cost less to make a barrel of petrol than it is a litre or something silly

another thing, now that the goverment have banned smoking, many people have quit, and 65% of one pack of fags went to the goverment, now that they arnt getting enough money from fags, they will rise prices of other tax's. maybe not petrol but still

another tax i hate is inheritance tax,
 

Skeet

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Whoever sent me the email that I summarised above, knows what company supplies what reseller.

So, boycotting will work. All you have to do is boycott one company. I think the biggest one was Esso, not sure. Anyway, if they supply Sainsburys or whatever, just don't buy from the Esso/Esso supplied garages if you can avoid them

They will feel the pinch and lower their price, which means in turn, their competition has to lower it's price, in order to compete.

Suddenly, our fuel costs less.

It could never cost less to make a barrel of Petrol, than it does to buy a litre, because a barrel Crude costs about $100, so a barrel of Petrol will require more than one barrel of crude, because many products are in that Crude and are separated by a fractioning column.

It may cost less (not including the Crude) to convert a barrel of petrol from crude, meaning the labour/process costs.

But then, if the cost of fuel is 70% tax, then at £1.15 a litre, that's about 35p per litre.

Actual production cost, cant be that much less than say 20p, but even if it is, a barrel of Crude is 42 gallons which is about 190L, so the actual cost of making the petrol would have to be well under 1p per litre, again, excluding the cost of the Crude.

Interesting table here guys and gals:

One 42gal gallon barrel of crude oil yields:

19.5 gallons of gasoline
9.2 gallons of distillate fuel oil (diesel fuel and home-heating oil)
4.1 gallons of kerosene-type jet fuel
2.3 gallons of residual fuel oil (used in industry and marine transportation and for election power generation)
1.9 gallons liquefied refinery gases
1.9 gallons still gas
1.8 gallons coke
1.3 gallons asphalt and road oil
1.2 gallons petrochemical feedstock
0.5 gallons lubricants
0.2 gallons kerosene
0.3 gallons other (don't ask me, I have no clue :) )

Avoid Inheritance Tax, by having your parents etc, sign their property over to you, 7 years before they die. Best get them to do it now, just to be safe:D


Fortunately, the world's single-largest oil deposit sits right here in North America. Time magazine calls it "Canada's biggest buried treasure." It's an area with up to 2.5 trillion barrels of oil, locked in Alberta sand. That's eight times the total reserves of Saudi Arabia, enough to satisfy the world's demand for petroleum for the next century.
 

Robbo22

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read in a paper the other week... diesel costs about 48p a litre without tax.. without tax we'd be the cheapest in europe, with tax we're the most expensive!!!:mad::mad:

just started driving.. and i'm skint enough without paying whats soon going to be 3 times as much as i should be doing for fuel...
 

Big Mac

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Whoever sent me the email that I summarised above, knows what company supplies what reseller.

So, boycotting will work.

It might have some effect yes...

but we need to know what companies are supplied by whom. Then you need to organise some from of protest/boycott. Probably best getting the truckers in there:rolleyes: to block off the pumps.

Its just having the organisation in place to enable a boycott of one supplier.
 

Luke W

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It might have some effect yes...

but we need to know what companies are supplied by whom. Then you need to organise some from of protest/boycott. Probably best getting the truckers in there:rolleyes: to block off the pumps.

Its just having the organisation in place to enable a boycott of one supplier.
And also, w're not the only country in the wolrd:rolleyes: If we stopped buying fuel from Esso, we're not going to cause a massive imapct as they're happy selling it to everybody else. So unless we can stop the whole world from bying fuel from one company, a boycott is useless.

And as it's already been said, most of the money we pay for fuel is in tax, so a decrease in price from Esso, wouldn't affect the price of our fuel massively, as we're paying a lot in taxes...
 

Big Mac

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And also, w're not the only country in the wolrd:rolleyes: If we stopped buying fuel from Esso, we're not going to cause a massive imapct as they're happy selling it to everybody else. So unless we can stop the whole world from bying fuel from one company, a boycott is useless.
i dont know why that wasnt mentioned in my post. i seem to be getting caught in the swing of things:eek::D pitchforks get put away again i guess.

im sure i tried to argue that point in one of my previous posts, im just so fed up of all the things trying to lower fuel prices that my arguments have got weaker.
 
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