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YT_69

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I'm not that much of a newbie... but theres one term ive not ever become familiar with...

"ramping"

its one of those terms whenever anyone said it to me, i just kinda nodded and agreed and was too shy put my hand up!?

this is only a kinda "what if" explanatory so i understand...

if a gun has ramping and operates at 7 bps up to 15bps

does that mean that as long as i keep pumping the trigger to 7 pulls a second... the gun will actually fire 15 balls per second....? so pulling it a certain speed puts it into full auto?
am i right? :S

sorry guys, i feel like a RIGHT idiot now!

Jon
 

evoonline

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ramping is used in many tournaments. as you've said, its when you pull the trigger a set number of times (say 5) in a second and the marker will infact fire to what the ramp is set to (new rules set it at 12). you can set how many trigger pulls are required and how many balls the marker will ramp up to.

bouncing is when the marker fires 2 balls with only 1 trigger pull. its not a good thing. im not sure of the ins and outs of this but it can be sorted by adjusting your trigger position and debounce settings in the markers software. a bouncing marker will put you on the field without a gun. :(

im 99% sure this is correct but im sure some clever clogs will correct something here :D
 

Dusty

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The difference between ramping and bouncing is that ramping is a controlled assisted fire mode. You can control the kick in, sustain and max rof.

Bouncing there is no control over and you can have one, two or six extra balls per trigger pull.
 

Devrij

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That's how I understand it to be^^^. Not all boards allow you to change the kick-in settings, but most have PSP (5 pulls with a one-second reactivation period) and Millenium settings (7pulls per second) with the adjustable ramp cap. Yeah, bounce is bad, usually means your trigger spring/magnet is set too light but debounce settings can help compensate that.
 

Dusty

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and your basic understanding is correct.

say for example your ramping kick in rate is 6 bps, once you hit that by yourself, the marker takes over and assists your rate of fire up to whatever bps it is set to. All you have to do is maintain the kick in rate, and the marker does the rest.
 

YT_69

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Brilliant, thanks guys, i thought thats what it was... but like i said, too much dignity to hold my hand up and ask! but cheers guys!

there was one other thing i wanted to ask... what is a "response trigger"?
 

Dusty

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I know what a response mode is.

When you pull the trigger it will fire a shot, then another shot when you release the trigger again.
 

Ion_Paintball

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i believe a response trigger on say a tipman is where the trigger has a rammer behind it... and if the trigger is pulled back the rammer bounces off the trigger over and over again until realsed... causing a sort of full auto, but legal
 

Big Mac

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i believe a response trigger on say a tipman is where the trigger has a rammer behind it... and if the trigger is pulled back the rammer bounces off the trigger over and over again until realsed... causing a sort of full auto, but legal
on the legality side im not sure - many if not most or all sites ban those tipmann e-grips or whatever they are.