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As we've obviously evolved, what was there first.?

Kat

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Also, I fail to see how any intelligent, or even average person, can look into the sky at night and see an endless sea of Suns, each potentially with planets around it and be absolutely certain, that we are the only planet to support life. How arrogant is that? People like that are either stupid or scarred.
100% agree with that!
 

spangley_special

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If you do the math, it is probably a higher chance of their being life on other worlds, that there is of wining the lottery and we know that happens!
certainly, when you consider the size of the universe.

There are around 300-400 billion stars in the milky way alone. Along with the milky way, 34 other galaxies make up the Local Group, which inturn is just the tiniest corner of the universe.

so to say there is no life else where in the universe would be a fools bet.

On a large enough scale the tiniest chance becomes a certainty
 

Skeet

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100% agree with that!
Well thank you.

Mind you, it was a kind of closed statement really, as anyone who disagrees, is openly announcing themselves as stupid or scarred! Cunning huh?:D

Personally, I have absolutely NO doubt that we are not alone.

The trouble is, because of the human condition, its is only natural, for most people to be scarred at the thought of beings from another world, coming to Earth.
Because of this, the likelihood of the authorities announcing this to be the case, unless forced, is very slim. It would cause mass panic, much like it did in New York, when "War of The Worlds" was broadcast over the radio, the entire city, believing it to be true, went nuts.


That is not to say, that being presented with such a being, would not scare me. I would likely sh!t myself, quite openly. But at least I would be scarred of the thing, rather than the thought of the thing!
 
That is not to say, that being presented with such a being, would not scare me. I would likely sh!t myself, quite openly. But at least I would be scarred of the thing, rather than the thought of the thing!
With luck, sh!tting yourself openly will be seen as a gracious salutation by their species.


I agree its almost certain there is life in the universe besides our own. But will they ever be able to travel to us, or us travel to them? I dont think so.
 

Kat

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Well thank you.

Mind you, it was a kind of closed statement really, as anyone who disagrees, is openly announcing themselves as stupid or scarred! Cunning huh?:D
People who don't believe, don't believe because they havn't seen it, but all we've done is try to listen for contact from elsewhere, and other than the select few planets we have made it to (aledgedly ;)) we have never, and probably will never make it to many others.

So unless something manages to contact us we are stuffed really.

Anyone that thinks we're the only intelligent (or even non intelligent :p) lifeform to evolve sucessfully out of billions/infinate number of planets is a bit lacking in logic.
 

Skeet

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With luck, sh!tting yourself openly will be seen as a gracious salutation by their species.


I agree its almost certain there is life in the universe besides our own. But will they ever be able to travel to us, or us travel to them? I dont think so.
Trouble is, as you say, a question of distance. Our nearest Star is 4.2 Light years away...not a drop in the Ocean, by any means.

However. We do not know, that there isn't something that is faster than the speed of light. Also, we only say that we couldn't visit them, because at the moment, we cannot achieve even close to the speed of light, with anything larger than a particle.

That does not mean, that they cannot.

We also, rightly, believe that the frail human body, could not withstand anything close to light speed and we don't have a reliable system of "FREEZING" people, in order to make this more plausible, and the journey less tedious.

That does not mean, that their bodies cant, or that they cannot "freeze" and unfreeze bodies at will.

So. Once you open up to that possibility, that another species, can achieve occupied space travel at close to or beyond our perception of the speed of light, then 4.2 Light years, isn't so far.

It may sound Geeky, though that is not the intention and I am by no means all "Comic Book Guy" about it, but...Star Gate...the film and subsequent SG1 series, does throw a very different possibility into the frame, assuming we ignore the tripe that is Atlantis.

In reality...there is only one man alive, who has even a "clued up" understanding of the universe and that is Prof. Hawking. So if a man like him, at I would imagine his own admission, knows what is only the tip of a potentially infinite Iceberg...how can we really, disbelieve anything, that has not already been proven to within the limits of our understanding?

You just cannot possibly attempt to fathom, what is REALLY possible or impossible. Can you?
 

danrandon

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I agree its almost certain there is life in the universe besides our own.
already found they come from a place called Mcdonalds Restaurents, now granted they are a simple and stupid and very often deformed life form with a very similar look to own own but with a condition that we know as Acne. They seem to communicate though little windows on the outside of their ships and the distinctive noise (vocab) they make is eh? and innit.

Often they leave the "mother ships" and enter into our brethren in small fighter type vessels marked with either Corsa or Micra. The higher ranks seem to pilot things called 206
 

Devrij

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already found they come from a place called Mcdonalds Restaurents, now granted they are a simple and stupid and very often deformed life form with a very similar look to own own but with a condition that we know as Acne. They seem to communicate though little windows on the outside of their ships and the distinctive noise (vocab) they make is eh? and innit.

Often they leave the "mother ships" and enter into our brethren in small fighter type vessels marked with either Corsa or Micra. The higher ranks seem to pilot things called 206
I think we're talking about intelligent lifeforms Dan.