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Jeff Abbott - Dye

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H_PAC said:
The cylinder has been proved safe in the TUV test but look at the outside contributions, a contaminant that burns and possible fill rate being high.
Without the combustiable contaminent no fire its simple so lets let the investigators come up with the answers as to how it was inside the cylinder.
I have a liner here from a stako but it will not burn by itself?

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Thats all well and good but the fact remains that these tanks have exploded and ONLY these tanks.

I don't care whether its the cycle of the moon or global warming that is causing it.

They are not safe when used for paintball.

Surely people can see that...?

keka
 
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keka said:
Thats all well and good but the fact remains that these tanks have exploded and ONLY these tanks.

I don't care whether its the cycle of the moon or global warming that is causing it.

They are not safe when used for paintball.

Surely people can see that...?

keka
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I love how fast this thread has turned in to a witch hunt. You take 3 un-related events, find anything that was common to all 3 and then decide with no evidence or testing that this was the cause. Even though some of the events have had causes totally unrelated such as oil usage, well that's just irralevent isn't it. -_-

Wait a second! ...did all these explosions take place on fields with grass on them? ... oh **** ban grass at paintball events! ... no really that's what you guys sound like now.
 
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We are talking about safety, not who is right or wrong or should be strung up for it!

I don't want to blow myself up or anyone else.

..and yes...all 3 tanks were from the same manufacturer and all 3 tanks failed in the same way. What other info do we have to make a judgement call?

85% of people that die from lung cancer are smokers. 10-15% never smoke. It is therefore safe to make a judgement that smoking causes lung cancer.

3 tanks with different regs have blown up. 100% of those tanks have been Stakkos!

What other judgement can you make, other than it is the tanks that are at fault?

Make the easy call and not use Stakkos. Based on the info available it will reduce the risk of injury by an exploding Stakko tank by 100%.

If someone dies whether a player or spectator it will be the end of paintball and then you can all sit at your PC's and talk about whether this thread was a witch hunt, based on scientific fact or just a load of old bulls**t.

It won't really matter though because the reality of the situation is that someone had to lose a life for everyone to figure this s**t out.

keka








Zorg said:
I love how fast this thread has turned in to a witch hunt. You take 3 un-related events, find anything that was common to all 3 and then decide with no evidence or testing that this was the cause. Even though some of the events have had causes totally unrelated such as oil usage, well that's just irralevent isn't it. -_-

Wait a second! ...did all these explosions take place on fields with grass on them? ... oh **** ban grass at paintball events! ... no really that's what you guys sound like now.
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ollytheosteo

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Zorg said:
I love how fast this thread has turned in to a witch hunt. You take 3 un-related events, find anything that was common to all 3 and then decide with no evidence or testing that this was the cause. Even though some of the events have had causes totally unrelated such as oil usage, well that's just irralevent isn't it. -_-

Wait a second! ...did all these explosions take place on fields with grass on them? ... oh **** ban grass at paintball events! ... no really that's what you guys sound like now.
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Hmm, unrelated? Not sure how you reach that conclusion but let's consider the arguments for and against;

For- some players get to use lighter tanks. and are now unwilling to go back to a heavier one.

Against- three of those tanks have now exploded, causing injury, in 'unrelated' incidents.

I'm sorry, but they just don't balance each other out. I had a Stako myself, used it and enjoyed the light weight but have since binned it as it isn't worth the risk. It's a pain in the arse and a waste of money but then that's paintball.
 
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was said a few posts back, or in the other thread, that another type of bottle exploded a while back, but the post was deleted or something, and how do you know the regs where different?
Prehaps it was the pro toys, but surely in this case, the bottle was pretty much undamaged, so how could you blame the bottle, when it was the reg that was at fault?
Or the compressor for flash filling?
 
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Safety code for air use

There is a safety code that was drawn up 18 months ago by the UKPSF Fat Bobs Paintball and HPAC which we have been working to whereby people are trained and issued with a Air Pass, this died a death when sites didnt want to work to it, we issue to all players an idiots guide to air use at all milleniums and in the UK we take several books with us to UK events and always have attendants present at our fill stations.

Trev
 
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Simple answer to the oil theory why have no other accidents of this nature occured with any other bottle other than a stako.
If Oil is present from the compresor then it will go into any bottle that plugs into a fill rig.
If the fill rigg fills too fast then it will fill every bottle that plugs in to it too fast so why has this not happened with any other bottle in over 10 years.
Or do only people with stakos use oil on thier systems.
Sooner or later this is going to happen again maybe next time the flying bottle will hit an innocent bystander on the head and possibly kill them.
 
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