Can you guys maybe get past the whole infantile "my gun is better than yours" thing - so this does not turn into pbnation ? 
Nick
Nick
So who's going to be dropped then ???
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Changed my mind, decided i couldn't go through with it like you did...
Could have sworn you had Mario.. seemed that way anyway the other day when they were catching up with you on C4
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41357000/jpg/_41357917_kem203.jpg
dude,look at the results,maybe not all the time but pretty close.
2006 season-
Marseille: Place 15 Points 8
Bitburg: Place 1 Points 100
Madrid: Place 1 Points 100
Paris: Place 1 Points 100
London: Place 1 Points 100
2007 so far -
Toulouse: Place 2 Points 88
Nürburgring: Place 2 Points 88
London: Place 1 Points 100
they are currently ranked 5th in the nppl,have a great image and are even giving the yanks a run for their money.The bottom line is if you were going to spend any money on sponsorship they are the only euros worth looking at ,do WDP sell more guns because they sponsor them? I don't know,but if you measure it by results the rest do not stand a chance.
I would think RL are doing pretty OK for Smart Parts.
Also, for most of the European paintball companies, it is ONLY as question of what teams do for them in the European market..... so for many of them, a team like Moscow Phoenix have more value than Edmonton Impact would, despite Impact being a better team with better results (in the US).
So, Joy is far from the only euro team "worth looking at".... there are plenty.... and many of them generate a lot of sales for their sponsors.
Heck, I would even argue that there are European teams with far worse results than Joy, that generate far more sales.... they just don't do it as marketing vehicles, they do it as a sales organisations.
Last, but certainly not least... sponsorships are about a lot more besides results! - It is not so simple that "the best team generates the most sales - because everyone thinks they have the best kit".... no informed consumer is that stupid in 2007.
You don't buy Carlsberg either, because you think it makes you a better footballer, despite the logo being on the Liverpool FC jersey.
Sponsorships are about generating a positive feeling... it's about showing the market (and world) that you are an involved and interested company, it's about showing you support the sport. - And you choose which teams to sponsor, because those teams manage to convey a feeling that you want your products identified with.
A site like this one is a very effective tool for communicating your teams philosophy and image.... in an underhand fashion....
For instance.... Magued coming on here and saying they will stick with WDP - because they owe it to them and because they make the best products, is a really good example...
It makes people think highly of Magued and Joy Division...... and it also makes people think that WDP inspires loyalty..... and at the same time, it says something about the products, because nobody believes Joy would stick with WDP if their guns starting loosing them games (irrespective of the truth)
Elegantly done - and completely planned
Nick
Nick, you're completely wrong about the US market, and give the general US baller Waaaaay too much credit.
As for Joy dicision, there is no team/sponsor relationship in paintball that compares to the Joy/WDP relationship. Hence it is extremely difficult, maybe even impossible, for an outsider to understand. While you do a good job of trying; you too fall short of understanding the bond that exists between these 2 entities.
As for Joy dicision, there is no team/sponsor relationship in paintball that compares to the Joy/WDP relationship. Hence it is extremely difficult, maybe even impossible, for an outsider to understand. While you do a good job of trying; you too fall short of understanding the bond that exists between these 2 entities.
I knew it, I knew it all along, Magued is shafting the big mama ...oh my...I feel billious