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Angel A1 - anything wrong??

NitroBall

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Not just A1s,there are a steady stream of DM7 and ego 7s,I think the market is at saturation with 101 different guns to shoot 15 bps.The other thing is that there are only probably a couple of thousand tournament players around and god knows how many markers in circulation.

The amount of players who seem to be hanging up there boots is also going to compound the problem as even more used gear is chucked onto the boards.
Here in the UK , its sad to see things go this way.

I can't see it lasting - manufacturers are killing the resale value of their products which is making them less attractive as new purchases.
Manufacturers look at marketing as a whole, not just here in the UK. Theres probably 100 times more markers and gear sold stateside for each marker sold in the UK alone, and thats not including Europe, the Far East, and the rest of the world. If marketing was based on the UK alone, i doubt if the manufacturers would last 2 seconds.
 

custard cavalier

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here is another example http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=87144 this gun is diving £200 below and will probably go for less.Used twice its mad, a loss of about 25%.

also interesting that dye are "giving away" ultralite frames with the pmr,they are not doing that because they are good people simple thing is they probably have a warehouses full of them,suddenly from about £100 as an upgrade down to £20 if you buy it with the gun,that would really hack me off if I had brought one a week ago.

simple fact loads of guns around,new and used and not enough players to shoot them.
 

pJervis

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here is another example http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=87144 this gun is diving £200 below and will probably go for less.Used twice its mad, a loss of about 25%.

also interesting that dye are "giving away" ultralite frames with the pmr,they are not doing that because they are good people simple thing is they probably have a warehouses full of them,suddenly from about £100 as an upgrade down to £20 if you buy it with the gun,that would really hack me off if I had brought one a week ago.

simple fact loads of guns around,new and used and not enough players to shoot them.
did you buy straight from dye? get in touch with them . . . you never know . . . what the worst they could say ?
 

Dusty

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here is another example http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=87144 this gun is diving £200 below and will probably go for less.Used twice its mad, a loss of about 25%.

also interesting that dye are "giving away" ultralite frames with the pmr,they are not doing that because they are good people simple thing is they probably have a warehouses full of them,suddenly from about £100 as an upgrade down to £20 if you buy it with the gun,that would really hack me off if I had brought one a week ago.

simple fact loads of guns around,new and used and not enough players to shoot them.

Thats Proto. Same company I know, but look at what they do year after year.

Proto +1 arrives and retails at £710 upon release. give it 6-8 weeks and retail drops to £475.

did the same last year, the year before, and surprise surprise this year as well. I find that kind of annoying as the DM +1 holds its price until the next model is released. now the marker you pay £710 for at the start of the year, will automatically lose a third, then when the price drops in the shops it will lose another third.

Look at the price of Pm6's now, around the £200 mark if they are standard. Dm6 for £300??

search up some of the older threads on this subject and look at people talking about buying Impulses and Angel LCD's for £300 and thinking that they are ridiculously cheap. Shiny toy syndrome has always been the bane of the second hand market, and will continue to be!!!

Moral of the story?? Trying to sell your marker? Unless it is rare or special, if someone makes ou even a half sensible offer bite their arm off for it, unless you want it to lose another £50 - £100 by next week ;)
 

Lovetone

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The b4st4rd gun whores dont help either.

These are the guys that have enough disposable income to buy a £4-800 marker, then sell for £200-£300 less 2 weeks later on a whim.

Therefore, when Johnny paper round wants to sell his hard earned, the market level has ostensibly been "set" at whatever the cheapest one sold for.

That 07 ego up there is a deal for £580 however over 2 months ago that Extremelimo guy I beleive was selling a custom anno 07 for £550.so its not even "that cheap". He also sold a custom anno NXT evil shocker for about £350 too.

Now, he probably doesnt give a **** to lose some small change but it hits the small guys hard.

MY advice -NEVER buy a new gat unless its from a team gun deal or you dont mind throwing away 10% per month on it.
 

Dusty

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cars........ :mad:

not that my sh*tty fiesta can depreciate much more to be honest!!

but then lets face it, it only gets expensive if like us, you change your marker more often than your shoes......