Millennium Apathy !
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I would take offence to that comment. I work damned hard for an average salary to pay for a house and the associated bills. I train as often as I can which until very recently and a change of shift pattern was once a week, now once a fortnight.- They do whatever it takes - and don't moan about the hardships
Nick
No one has the right to tell me I can do more. I do as much as I can in order to play and not let myself or my team mates down. And I am not the only one. Fortunately i have no aspirations of a life in Professional paintball.
What I read into your comments Nick, it would appear that the only way to be a TRUE paintball player is to drop everything else in your life. You can do that if you want big fella, the rest of us have lives and we make the best of what we got.
I understand that there are arseholes who feel everything should be handed to them, but do keep in mind they will make up the minority in any sport or activity including paintball. The vast vast majority of people worldwide play any sport or hobby for pleasure and that is a fact which appears to have been overlooked.
A marketing 'nightmare' that has attracted 25% of the western world? Jeez... now I've heard of perfectionism but Mr Brockdorff you're a hard taskmaster.
Dusty, totally agree
This argument has been done to death many times over, not least last campaign cup 06. fact is, that you have these "luminaries" of the sport dictating what is required of people "for the good of the sport", which in the most part boils down to degrading everyone who is in this for fun and wants to play only a regional level. IF 70%* of tournament players in the uk only play tournament regionally, and that leads to the death of the sport - so be it! (*guesstimate)
Not everyones wants/ needs / can afford to play overseas events, or so called "major league tournaments".
Looking down on people for not aspiring to ones own virtuously lofty goals is derogatory and is a self defeating circular argument.
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why do you take offence? Substitute TRUE for Pro/Semi-Pro and you're both talking about exactly the same thing!
Same with all sports/past times - some chose to indulge more fervently than others, others chose to have lives/girlfriends/families.
So it is now, so it will always be.
why do you take offence? Substitute TRUE for Pro/Semi-Pro and you're both talking about exactly the same thing!
Same with all sports/past times - some chose to indulge more fervently than others, others chose to have lives/girlfriends/families.
So it is now, so it will always be.
I took offence at a few specific words, namely "and don't moan about it"
As Lovetone put it more eloquently than i could have hoped to, the vast majority of Mr Brockdorffs posts seem to me anyway, to be derogatory in the least.
It would appear that paintball is exclusive in that we should all aspire to be pro "for the good of the sport". does that mean someone who plays five a side once a fortnight with his/her work buddies that they should aspire to a premiership position?
Realistically, across the globe how many players are there reported to be? 12 million or something? cut that in half and call it 6 million who play more than once in a while. how many players out there call themselves "Pro"?
work it out as a percentage of the total and I think you will find it is us, the bread and butter of the sport who are actually funding and keeping it alive.
CC team numbers are on the increase - slowly. And there are still some regulars missing off of the list yet.
If you look at the overall number of teams, there seems to be a lack of UK AND non-UK teams at the moment. Proportionally, there is about an equal percentage of UK teams on the CC list as they were home-country teams at Toulouse and Germany. Well, certainly in the M5 division anyway.
Is there something else here that is deterring teams of all nationalities?
If you look at the overall number of teams, there seems to be a lack of UK AND non-UK teams at the moment. Proportionally, there is about an equal percentage of UK teams on the CC list as they were home-country teams at Toulouse and Germany. Well, certainly in the M5 division anyway.
Is there something else here that is deterring teams of all nationalities?
Ah gotcha!
And I totally agree - Woodsball has always and will always fund Sup'air, and the casual/domestic team will fund the Pro's; again, much like any other consumer-driven "sport" or past time.
Well - then you should not feel like my comments were directed at you!
My point is STILL:
If you DO have aspirations in paintball - and specifically in this thread - for playing major events like the Campaign Cup - finances are really not a factor.... because players that do - do whatever it takes to reach their goals, if they are truly serious.
But, if you do not, then nobody on this forum or elsewhere has the right to suggest that you are wrong for not playing the Campaign Cup, because you are not the type that wants to play the big events, win tournaments, etc.... and that is prefectly ok for paintball, because our sport can be done at any level, fortunately.
My "moan about it" comment was directed at all those people in our sport that talk the talk (especially in here) - but don't walk the walk
Get it ?
Nick
Hmm - either I did not make that clear enough, or you are misunderstanding it on purpose ?
The "marketing nightmare" is, that the SPORT of paintball - i.e. the tournament part of paintball, has very little relevance to the common population, even if 25 % of them has actually tried paintball.
Imagine if all those people had been faced with a Sup'Air field when they played - what a difference it would make to our sport in terms of population interest and and in turn media coverage..... and, and, and
Is it clear enough now?
Nick