oooooooo i got an answer for that one....it to make the field safe if an accident should occur. the accident can be dealt with...game can resume from where it left off.
if that makes sense
oooooooo i got an answer for that one....it to make the field safe if an accident should occur. the accident can be dealt with...game can resume from where it left off.
if that makes sense
Why don't the local UK leagues just scrap some of these pedantic Millenium rules for the benefit of the paying customer attending a fun UK event to get some trigger time in with buddies and have a fun Sunday?
Lord knows how many people have been pulled or 141'd from games for these stupid rules, screwing up a game for one person, probably the outcome of the game, possibly the overall ranking at the end of the day, and perhaps even the entire day for a single person or team as a result of these calls. Especially with the inconsistency and lack of knowledge and training of many (obviously not all) of the UK refs trying to enforce these strict Millenium rules.
I realise that some teams may want the local tourneys as close to millenium standard as possible so they can use them to practice correctly for the 'real deal'. But come on, pretty much all UK events have got nothing on a millenium event, so why not use a bit of common sense and edit the rules to suit the series?
Lord knows how many people have been pulled or 141'd from games for these stupid rules, screwing up a game for one person, probably the outcome of the game, possibly the overall ranking at the end of the day, and perhaps even the entire day for a single person or team as a result of these calls. Especially with the inconsistency and lack of knowledge and training of many (obviously not all) of the UK refs trying to enforce these strict Millenium rules.
I realise that some teams may want the local tourneys as close to millenium standard as possible so they can use them to practice correctly for the 'real deal'. But come on, pretty much all UK events have got nothing on a millenium event, so why not use a bit of common sense and edit the rules to suit the series?
why not just make live players put their guns on the floor, they can't touch them so no worries and you'll know where the live players are when you want to restart the game.
It does make sense, but normal practise is to put your guns on the ground with the barrel pointing into a bunker.
I wonder what would happen if you left your barrel sock at the start gate and carried a spare in your pocket.
There is no rule saying you cannot carry two?
Russ
still eliminated for leaving your sock at the start gate...that what the rules say...and we know how all you refs love going by the rules
Balf
Balf
there was a team who to be fair beat us, but all left their barrel socks at the start gate and nothing was done about it
just an observation........... i noticed the div 1 teams walking around the field before and after a game with no barrel socks on randomly shooting their markers ! could this just be they are more experienced, and 1-4-1 rules dont apply to them ..........
i also noticed that trainee refs making bad calls for whatever reason, even when the ultimate agreed bad calls were made, couldnt change the decision.......... why is this ?
i also noticed that trainee refs making bad calls for whatever reason, even when the ultimate agreed bad calls were made, couldnt change the decision.......... why is this ?
i can understand the rule for not socking up when alive, but when dead its bit stupid, you can press buttons even as you walk along, its not the hardest thing in the world. peeps always on about sport saftey and criticise the un-safe minority, yet the rules question this, iv always been taught to walk with finger off trigger when not in use, and make guns safe as possible asap, so why not make it safe when your dead anyway. is it a case of ya never know what might happen if they sock up or they are hiding 3 little samalion kids inside the sock and dont want to be pulled for it. the mind boggles on this
It was me who pullled the player for pressing the buttons on his gat, and to be honest Russ wether you agree with the rule or not (obviously you dont which i can respect)it is in the rule book and myself personally i try and follow the rules as best i can, i didnt make them im just there to follow them to the best of my abilities wether i agree with them or not. If i didnt whats the point in having a rule book full stop.
I did explain at the time what the elimination was for after he asked, and if the player had listened to me and gone to the the dead box when I asked him to I wouldnt of 1-4-'d him and he should know better i hold a lot of respect for this player ( i wont put who it is as you didnt name him) as ive watched him through the years and what he has done for teams he has been with etc etc is brilliant for the sport but again wether he liked the rule or not at that point it had to be upheld.
I dont want to get into the fact of wether the rules are just and warrented or not, but compared to last year when there wasnt a standard set rulebook there were a lot more incosistencies between fields and this year it is easier for any ref to be able enforce rules which are on paper.
Regards
Jon
Right first off I wasn't at the Masters at the weekend. I was at Donington enjoying the best weekend of my life without a doubt. BUT, I do feel I am more than qualified and experienced enough to add my opinion to this thread. If you are live at the end of the game and put your sock on the end of your barrel, so be it. It is a safety thing for f*ck's sake and I for one am not gonna eliminate you for it, so when all is said and done it is a load of Millenium bollocks. Having said that, every single time I have reffed, and my fellow UK Refs can and will back me upon this, we get asked if players can sock up, switch off or whatever to make their gats safe. As for an accident on field when a game is taking place, ew UK Refs insist on simply shouting as loud as we can for all live players to put their guns down on the ground at the bunker where they are, while the accident or whatever is dealt with as quickly as possible so that when play is resumed, everyone is back in their original position. SEE, EASY ISN'T IT?!!
Regarding the "rule" that once a marker has been socked up then it cannot be checked for cheat modes, allbeit by the chrono ref only, then again I say on record, what a load of sh!t. If a ref is suspicious of a gun being naughty, then he or she IS permitted to check it out and if it is found to be firing illegal modes, then appropriate penalties will be applied.
Stickers on hoppers is another thread and subject altogether, so why even bring it up on this thread?
At the end of the day, as a ref, you are responsible for the safety of the players, yourself and your fellow refs, and the spectators on the safe side of the netting. So to eliminate a player just for putting their barrel sock on when they are live, basically makes you a bit of an arse and very pedantic. I have posted elsewhere this is the problem with the Millenium rules, there is no room for common sense, just "this is our rules and you must apply them as they are in the rulebook". Well if it was a perfect world then we wouldn't need a rulebook, but it aint, and human nature dictates that we SHOULD apply a little comon sense. Come on guys, don't end up like Millenium ref robots.
Regarding the "rule" that once a marker has been socked up then it cannot be checked for cheat modes, allbeit by the chrono ref only, then again I say on record, what a load of sh!t. If a ref is suspicious of a gun being naughty, then he or she IS permitted to check it out and if it is found to be firing illegal modes, then appropriate penalties will be applied.
Stickers on hoppers is another thread and subject altogether, so why even bring it up on this thread?
At the end of the day, as a ref, you are responsible for the safety of the players, yourself and your fellow refs, and the spectators on the safe side of the netting. So to eliminate a player just for putting their barrel sock on when they are live, basically makes you a bit of an arse and very pedantic. I have posted elsewhere this is the problem with the Millenium rules, there is no room for common sense, just "this is our rules and you must apply them as they are in the rulebook". Well if it was a perfect world then we wouldn't need a rulebook, but it aint, and human nature dictates that we SHOULD apply a little comon sense. Come on guys, don't end up like Millenium ref robots.