It is far from the best guide I have ever seen. I will try and find a better one for you later, or type up some notes if I have time.
And yes Monohydrate is what you want
And yes Monohydrate is what you want
Protein Bars...Training Supplements
- Thread starter Dskize
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John, sorry mate, but I gotta take issue with you here and here's why.
By your definition I'm a noob because I always take protein AFTER I have trained and never before.
Now I know you are studying (or have studied ) this area comprehensively and so i cannot for the life of me fathom why you would state the following :-
They do not understand that you must leave your body time to digest and move the proteins into the blood so when you muscles need it i.e. after workout it is there waiting to be used. Rather than having to wait for the food to digest before they will be able to use it.
Protein synthesis in terms of muscle building is done AFTER training.
You suggest protein should be taken before, which in itself is OK but is not a requirement for the reason you state, muscles do not require protein to function, they need oxygen and glycogen as far as I know.
The protein is a building block of muscle and not its fuel and therefore what you say is just plain wrong mate.
Sorry that was not my meaning.
During the workout your muscles are effectively being broken down, so that they can grow back stronger.
I was not trying to suggest that protein was required for the workout, what I meant was that for the protein to be at your muscles at the optimum time, i.e. just after you have finished you workout, you should give your body time to digust the protein and start to flow around your body, depending on your body this can take about 60-90 minutes ROUGHLY. So say you workout for an hour then you could eat 30 mins before your workout, then once you have finished the workout the protein is already flowing around your body ready to help your muscles recover.
Sorry if there was any confusion I fully except that protein is in no way involved with the "fueling" process of how your muscles work.
With respect to how you train, when you started perhaps the information at the time was much more limited and it has become habit. And the old principle applies well "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" so there was no reason for you to want to look into different ways of taking protein. Perhaps I should have worded it "only noobs and veterans do this"
During the workout your muscles are effectively being broken down, so that they can grow back stronger.
I was not trying to suggest that protein was required for the workout, what I meant was that for the protein to be at your muscles at the optimum time, i.e. just after you have finished you workout, you should give your body time to digust the protein and start to flow around your body, depending on your body this can take about 60-90 minutes ROUGHLY. So say you workout for an hour then you could eat 30 mins before your workout, then once you have finished the workout the protein is already flowing around your body ready to help your muscles recover.
Sorry if there was any confusion I fully except that protein is in no way involved with the "fueling" process of how your muscles work.
With respect to how you train, when you started perhaps the information at the time was much more limited and it has become habit. And the old principle applies well "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" so there was no reason for you to want to look into different ways of taking protein. Perhaps I should have worded it "only noobs and veterans do this"
Dskize, as for your nob shrinking all im saying is red and blue's
John, I posted up the ATP creating serum, as its done me well in the past and still does. One of the easiest to get started on as there is no loading required. I know a few people who use it some being clean and others with veins the size of the channel tunnel, both have positives about the product.
Im not disagreeing with you that 99% of it will be marketing but there are some out there that do work.
My knowledge on the subject is limited as ive only looked into the type of stuff needed for the workouts i do but i have a few friends who do exactly what Robbo has said above, with the whole matter of eating after.
Dskize, just out of interest what is the workout your doing at the moment?
John, I posted up the ATP creating serum, as its done me well in the past and still does. One of the easiest to get started on as there is no loading required. I know a few people who use it some being clean and others with veins the size of the channel tunnel, both have positives about the product.
Im not disagreeing with you that 99% of it will be marketing but there are some out there that do work.
My knowledge on the subject is limited as ive only looked into the type of stuff needed for the workouts i do but i have a few friends who do exactly what Robbo has said above, with the whole matter of eating after.
Dskize, just out of interest what is the workout your doing at the moment?
Trust me it is all hype!!! Pure creatine will be just as good if not better, especially when used correctly.
it consists of
8-10 mins rowing machine as a warm up
3 sets of 15 reps on legs
IE, 3 sets leg presses .3 sets Extensions ,yadda yadda (on the machines)
Then arms and chest ,some machine work with the same number of reps but mostly weights now ,bench presses ,Curls, Skullcrushers (ooyah) ,Squats
20 mins on the treadmill at 10-12 kph and 5 mins cool down.
Swim 20 lenths in the pool (25m pool I think)
Sauna ,Jacuzzi then 15 pints of lager
Im still trying to work out whats right if you'll pardon the pun..
8-10 mins rowing machine as a warm up
3 sets of 15 reps on legs
IE, 3 sets leg presses .3 sets Extensions ,yadda yadda (on the machines)
Then arms and chest ,some machine work with the same number of reps but mostly weights now ,bench presses ,Curls, Skullcrushers (ooyah) ,Squats
20 mins on the treadmill at 10-12 kph and 5 mins cool down.
Swim 20 lenths in the pool (25m pool I think)
Sauna ,Jacuzzi then 15 pints of lager
Im still trying to work out whats right if you'll pardon the pun..
8-10 mins rowing machine as a warm up
3 sets of 15 reps on legs
IE, 3 sets leg presses .3 sets Extensions ,yadda yadda (on the machines)
Then arms and chest ,some machine work with the same number of reps but mostly weights now ,bench presses ,Curls, Skullcrushers (ooyah) ,Squats
20 mins on the treadmill at 10-12 kph and 5 mins cool down.
Swim 20 lenths in the pool (25m pool I think)
Sauna ,Jacuzzi then 15 pints of larger AKA BICEP CURLS
Fixed a bit for you
So would you do the above say on a monday, rest tuesday, then go back to it wednesday?