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Blackheart Vs Lucky Stage 4 Board

oobermybeer

Uni Of Teesside Paintball
Feb 5, 2007
638
0
0
Middlesbrough
i got a lucky, and love it, the lucky has the MAC noid, wich is sweet and strange shaped, oh and has training mod that means you can train and take 12 shots to empty a reg, it doesnt fire a ball, just cycles the bolt and goes put put, so you can hear howe your fingers are going, i love it and wouldnt change it, :p
 
Ok.. can anyone posts reasons... (sorry I should have been clearer in my thread starter...)

Ease of use?
Reliability?
Lucky Speed with SP noid compared to Blackheart???
Stuff like that?

Between those two it should be no contest. The blackheart is hardly even an upgrade board.


Id like to make it clear that my opinion is biased but to the best of my knowledge factual.



Ease of use:
Display: The stage 4 has a Multi colour LED which shows red for stop, green for go, yellow for error (blue for eyes disabled).
Much easier to remember and easier to tell at a glance than varying frequencies of blinks.

Interface: The interface is in real numbers, so you want 16ms dwell, set the dwell to 16. You want 25bps, set the MROF to 25. No need for an online settings calculator with Spitfire.

Also the interface has preset firemodes for all tournements. The presets change all necessary parameters which affect the firemode.
Its a no hastle way of making your gun legal in under a minute.
No need to become an expert on millenium firemode rules, just choose the millenium firemode and your away.



Reliability
Short term: The spitfire eye logic slows down the gun once the eyes have failed, the blackheart does not. Spitfire eye logic also picks up if the hopper suddenly stopped force feeding and would briefly adjust to gravity feed settings.

On the blackheart in the event of a hopper or eye problem you have to manually slow down your rate of fire by not pulling the trigger so fast, to prevent further breakages or problems.


Long term: If you keep the stock solenoid then they will be equally reliable in the long term. (ie the noid will fail first).


Speed on assisted modes will be the same. Both boards have the ability to fine tune the ROF closely around 15bps. The only difference is there is no mathematics involved when setting up the spitfire board...

Speed on 'semi' is alot different.
The spitfire board has 2 million trigger scans per second and shot queuing.
The blackheart board has neither of these, so if you set your mrof to 20bps in semi (for example), any trigger pull within 0.05 seconds of the previous one will be ignored, resulting in a much slower semi.
The spitfire board on the other hand NEVER forgets a valid trigger pull.

Additionally the spitfire board has 3 debounce parameters, which allow you to set your gun fast and legal.



Stuff like that: Membrane pad... the Stage 4 accepts a membrane pad with no soldering required. (adapter needed)
 

mikey601

F orum Battle Organiser
Nov 23, 2005
5,189
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Between those two it should be no contest. The blackheart is hardly even an upgrade board.


Id like to make it clear that my opinion is biased but to the best of my knowledge factual.



Ease of use:
Display: The stage 4 has a Multi colour LED which shows red for stop, green for go, yellow for error (blue for eyes disabled).
Much easier to remember and easier to tell at a glance than varying frequencies of blinks.

Interface: The interface is in real numbers, so you want 16ms dwell, set the dwell to 16. You want 25bps, set the MROF to 25. No need for an online settings calculator with Spitfire.

Also the interface has preset firemodes for all tournements. The presets change all necessary parameters which affect the firemode.
Its a no hastle way of making your gun legal in under a minute.
No need to become an expert on millenium firemode rules, just choose the millenium firemode and your away.



Reliability
Short term: The spitfire eye logic slows down the gun once the eyes have failed, the blackheart does not. Spitfire eye logic also picks up if the hopper suddenly stopped force feeding and would briefly adjust to gravity feed settings.

On the blackheart in the event of a hopper or eye problem you have to manually slow down your rate of fire by not pulling the trigger so fast, to prevent further breakages or problems.


Long term: If you keep the stock solenoid then they will be equally reliable in the long term. (ie the noid will fail first).


Speed on assisted modes will be the same. Both boards have the ability to fine tune the ROF closely around 15bps. The only difference is there is no mathematics involved when setting up the spitfire board...

Speed on 'semi' is alot different.
The spitfire board has 2 million trigger scans per second and shot queuing.
The blackheart board has neither of these, so if you set your mrof to 20bps in semi (for example), any trigger pull within 0.05 seconds of the previous one will be ignored, resulting in a much slower semi.
The spitfire board on the other hand NEVER forgets a valid trigger pull.

Additionally the spitfire board has 3 debounce parameters, which allow you to set your gun fast and legal.



Stuff like that: Membrane pad... the Stage 4 accepts a membrane pad with no soldering required. (adapter needed)

Yeah but the blackheart board beeps at you ;) :p
 

oobermybeer

Uni Of Teesside Paintball
Feb 5, 2007
638
0
0
Middlesbrough
i got the membrane pad, and the mac noid, and lucky eyes, and the customer service and john has been a life saver, i had a problem with a board i had bought from else where, and john picked it up, fixed it up and fixed my marker, he and this board are awesome! no joke
 

evoonline

CPPS Referee 4 Life.
Feb 14, 2007
3,243
29
73
Rugeley, Staffordshire
the ion marcus has bought has virtue eyes and i agree with the majority that the lucky board is by far better. only had a small mess with it when i owned this ion but its soooo easy.
 

Marcus Geezer

Platinum Member
Thanks.....

Thanks to everyone for their input and especially to John C who I think has sold it to me. I think I'll fit the Lucky board, give it a go for a day, then make my choice, but I think it is lucky all the way.

As for the expected stupid and predictable post for this kind of thread the award goes to.....

get a t-board.
Please, how does this help me decide what is better between a lucky and a blackheart? Stupid is as stupid does....
 

Marcus Geezer

Platinum Member
A-o-k....

Evo,

Everything is fine.... I'm just reconciling parts between my two Ion's... My main one is a beauty and hasn't got much stock items left, and it currently has a blackheart board in it. Having already swapped the virtue eyes into this... was just wondering which board to have in it, my blackheart or the newly acquired lucky..... Looks like it gonna be the lucky....

Just like to say thanks Evo again for the quick delivery (next day) and for delivering what you promised. I fitted the elbow to the Oops and a bit of macroline and the thing rips!! Thanks loads mate...