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Bunkerkidz

LISBON BENFICA
Sam,

You need to realise when you are digging yourself a hole and just stop talking. You have already admited that you havent been to an event this year, or seen anyone play - and you clearly dont have an idea about any of your mentioned Pro teams. For your information the TonTons had 2 American players last year, and have 2 this year. If you are going to throw around accusations atleast get your facts straight.

Oppinions are like a*seholes, everyone has one, but clearly everyone on here is tired of hearing yours.

Wordespa
I actually agree with him and think he's right.

While I do greatly agree that it is fun to watch and play against the world's top players, I for one think that we should do whatever we can to elevate the European skill level and shorten the gap between the US and Europe, and that's not gonna happen while we allow this to happen, because teams are going to rely on bringing in star players to help them keep their ranking up instead of actually practicing hard and investing on their players.

Now again, I can't blame teams for doing this, because since it is pretty much the norm right now, whoever doesn't do it is at a real disadvantage (Like we are). But I do think it gets a little unfair when you're playing a team that is fielding 3 Americans every point and only 2 guys from the "actual" team.

Take Moscow Phoenix's ranking for both Toulouse and Germany, and then guess in which event they had 3 Trauma players playing for them. (Again, not attacking Moscow Phoenix in any way, I think they are an amazing team and I look up to them, this is merely an example)

Now I think that what Nick said is probably the best way to go, making the teams wear the same jerseys.

Not to mention I have noticed a number of infractions this year in what regards to all jerseys needing to have the Millennium logo on them, but that's another story, it's sad to see how rules apply to some and not to others, but that's just a part of paintball, and will always happen in one way or another.

I am all for teams like Tontons, Nexus and Bullets having American PRO players actually PLAYING for their team, not just guesting, there is a huge difference.
 

HUSH HUSH

Menace2Society
Feb 11, 2005
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The Phillys that played last year with the Ton Tons and Powertrip played all season i believe and it was the ideal situation as the teams sponsorship were the same. Same for the The Ton Tons and Nexus this year, the new players will be there all year and wear the Teams kit.

Hellwood - Miami Rage
Influence - Dynasty
And a few other teams

These teams and players have diffirent sponsorship so therefore can not wear/ shoot the same gear so the theory of wearing the same kit will fail due to sponsorship clashes.
 

Nick Brockdorff

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These teams and players have diffirent sponsorship so therefore can not wear/ shoot the same gear so the theory of wearing the same kit will fail due to sponsorship clashes.
Which is exactly the idea!

We want only players that are truly part of the team to play - and if you cannot wear identical jerseys and promote exactly the same sponsors, you are obviously not truly a part of the team.

Nick
 

Bunkerkidz

LISBON BENFICA
The Phillys that played last year with the Ton Tons and Powertrip played all season i believe and it was the ideal situation as the teams sponsorship were the same. Same for the The Ton Tons and Nexus this year, the new players will be there all year and wear the Teams kit.

Hellwood - Miami Rage
Influence - Dynasty
And a few other teams

These teams and players have diffirent sponsorship so therefore can not wear/ shoot the same gear so the theory of wearing the same kit will fail due to sponsorship clashes.
You actually have a couple more.

And for your information, the only reason that SP brought in the Philly Americans to play for Powertrip was because they were struggling and were in danger of losing their spot, since they only came in after the first 2 events.

And I can complete your list:
Syndicate - Dynasty
Copenhagen Ducks - XSV (Markus Nielsen) / Impact (Josh Davey)
Moscow Phoenix - Trauma

SPL:
Disruption - Bushwhackers
Chilli Peppers - Russian Legion
Instinct - Dynasty (I don't know if this is what you meant by Influence)
 
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Johan

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You actually have a couple more.

And for your information, the only reason that SP brought in the Philly Americans to play for Powertrip was because they were struggling and were in danger of losing their spot, since they only came in after the first 2 events.

And I can complete your list:
Syndicate - Dynasty
Copenhagen Ducks - XSV (Markus Nielsen) / Impact (Josh Davey)
Moscow Phoenix - Trauma

SPL:
Disruption - Bushwhackers
Chilli Peppers - Russian Legion
Instinct - Dynasty (I don't know if this is what you meant by Influence)
7 man
freestyle - russian legion
 

impamiizgraa

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I love the way the people who agree with me come out after i've been totally burned out :rolleyes: :D

I think the idea of teams wearing the same jersey is a great way to dig out the "guests and ringers"
It really is something that should be seriously considered by all those involved in the IPPU and perhaps taken to the Millennium staff - if they've agreed to recognise the IPPU as an official organisation that is.

Hopefully we'll start to see a few more situation like Oliver/Pete and the Bullets - where the players become a part of the team, instead of just being hired guns.
It would make the sport more professional and, possibly, make players more loyal (in a way).
 

HUSH HUSH

Menace2Society
Feb 11, 2005
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On The South Coast Baby
You actually have a couple more.

And for your information, the only reason that SP brought in the Philly Americans to play for Powertrip was because they were struggling and were in danger of losing their spot, since they only came in after the first 2 events.
Far point but Power trip lost so many players that they needed to bring in new ones or the team would have folded 2005 and the Phillys were spoken to the end of 2005 early 2006 to resolve this.

And I can complete your list:
Syndicate - Dynasty
Copenhagen Ducks - XSV (Markus Nielsen) / Impact (Josh Davey)
Moscow Phoenix - Trauma

SPL:
Disruption - Bushwhackers
Chilli Peppers - Russian Legion
Instinct - Dynasty (I don't know if this is what you meant by Influence)
Instinct - Dynasty (I don't know if this is what you meant by Influence) Yes Instinct my mistake

I love the way the people who agree with me come out after i've been totally burned out :rolleyes: :D
I dont necessarily aggree with how you say things