if you are planning to play either the PA or fightclub, or any x-ball type events in the UK then i dont suggest that you get the C5 pack as it can be quite a struggle to get your pots in on your own, best packs out there i would say are NXE packs, you will notice quite alot of top pro's use proto packs instead of dye ones, because they are not as fiddley as the C5 packs.