Has **nation closed it's doors.??

[Tom Allen]

Tom gets it a lot, you know with being old and stuff, i can handle that but it's when he wets himself in public, its started to become a problem

see you in about 2hours tom

And about respect, i rest my case...

 

[Buddha 3]

Hate Thatcher?

And rightfully so. As I pointed out, she is more or less directly responsible for the deaths of a number of marines. You'd think a government would shirk from squandering lives for PR reasons.

And people ask me why I'm such a cynic.

 

[slam]

Although i would agree that some of the marches where PR stunts to gain a swift conclusion, there where military reasons behind them as well. The main ones being that the supply chain was become increasingly hard to maintain as the nearest air head being used was the Ascension isles and also the fear that the Argentineans would be able to purchase more Exocet missile.

Back on track though would National service really work as the Army now is having problems with some of their recruits.

 

[danrandon]

Fox Hunting, isn't this where a bunch of toffs justify themselves by claiming they are doing it for 'altruistic' reasons such as helping the local farmers, or maybe even keeping the local pests under control?

And this is achieved how exactly?
Oh yeh, we all get dressed up like a bunch of toffee-nose colonels, sit atop a horse with a couple of score of other like minded fools, procure a pack of dogs, blow a few horns and then go ride toward some random location defined by a terrified fox running for its life, just to witness said fox being torn limb from limb !!!

I ain't no fox lover but then again, I don't like unnecessary suffering and I am pretty damned sure that if I got hold of a few friends of mine and dragged one of these *******s out of bed one Sunday morning, stripped him to his fat ass underpants and set him loose across some fields while we followed some pit bulls who wanted to rip his ass from his torso, I wonder how sympathetic he would then be to the fox's cause?

Unnecessary suffering ??????
There can be no excuse or justification!!!!

hear hear!!!

 

[-Tris-]

never been to pbnation (thx god by the sounds of it), hope im not the bad side of the young generation (16 can be counted as young I hope)

 

[Big Mac]

i hate having to take this thread off track - the foxs do not actually suffer. the hounds are trained and know how to kill it instantly. the hound breaks the foxs neck and it dies instantly. a bullet is a far more in humain way. most of the time they never catch a fox anyway and in the first season since the ban more foxes were killed than in a year of the previous style of hunting.

it seems as if im a lone villager taking on a town the size of london

 

[mikey601]

i hate having to take this thread off track - the foxs do not actually suffer. the hounds are trained and know how to kill it instantly. the hound breaks the foxs neck and it dies instantly. a bullet is a far more in humain way. most of the time they never catch a fox anyway and in the first season since the ban more foxes were killed than in a year of the previous style of hunting.

it seems as if im a lone villager taking on a town the size of london

Are you seriously trying to condone hunting?

 

[yorgie]

taking it back to the topic - i think someone's adsl bombing pbnation - it no longer loads - what happens when you ban lots of kids with computer access and too much spare time! lol

edit! - fox hunting has it's ecological advantages; where i live foxes are overpopulated, and so without destroying a minority of them, it only means that for most of them it is a hard existance, they are all scrawny and dog-eared (no pun intended), so without readily feeding them (and destroying their natural instinct to hunt wildlife), or relocating them, eradication of a minority seems like a good alternative - they arn't exactly disruptive mind, i don't care about the foxes, it's nice to know my area's busy for foxes at least! - so i suppose you have to be cruel to be kind with foxes... that's just my opinion though.

 

[J@mes]

Are you seriously trying to condone hunting?

is it really that bad, fox hunting isnt just about the kill... i mean we go on about fox hunting, yet 90% of people dont eat free range meat, which in my eyes is just the same, any meat that comes into our house is free range.

my father has been on endless hunts for the past 10-20 years, and he has only ever been on Two hunts where a fox has been killed, he goes to get the most out of his horse's and have a good day.

the cruetly side of it isnt nice, but then millions of battery hens sit inside of shoe box sized box's for the whole of there life, which the majority never see the light of day... im not being pig headed, but i dont see how poeple who live in the middle of london can understand the country way of life.

please dont flame me, these are my opinoins only.

-james

 

[Big Mac]

exactly james - there isnt that much cruelty though! and mikey - yes i condone hunting!