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Bon

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Feb 22, 2006
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On a side note though, Imo tippys would be better for a site owner as no1 they have more of a "gun" feel to them = makes the punters happy.

no2, theyre only 50% accurate = punters waste paint trying to hit a target = more paint brought = more money

no 3, solid as a tank, can throw them arround, bash them, even rust and they just keep going

Hell you dont need spare parts, cos they dont break down!

tippys ftw
 

majic

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which ones better!

Tippys are ok but look well dated now!Infernos at our site lasted 7 years and still work now as opposed to the old 98s that lasted 2 years and were fubar.We have currently decided for what reason I know not to use Parhanas gti model there awfull there plastic brake all the time spares have to come from china and are usualy not the parts you want like the blue hammer oring or the detents they are unrepairable in 3 months most dont even last that long!

I think that the A5 tippman would be an excellent site marker lower paint prices by £10 and people will love it like a fat kid loves cake!
Looks like an Mp5 and can handle fireing loads of paint making more cash in the long run being a tippy its a hardcore weapon at a budget price!!! with sights and an aji built into it what more could you ask for!
 

Gups

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The Inferno is more cost effective to run than a Tippmann as it's less gas hungry, quicker to service and spares are readily available which means less down-time.
We used to use Tippmanns at DF but switched to the Inferno about 5 years ago and have never looked back since. We now have about 8k of my little babies ;)

I reckon each of our guns is used, on average 3 times, every week of the year x 600 shots per day average. A gun will last us about 3 years before it becomes more cost effective to buy a new gun than to repair the old. I calculate that at over 280,000 shots for a gun that will cost you quite a bit less than £100 (I won't reveal our price ;), lol)

Anyone got any figures for the Tippmann?

Incidentally, another bit of shameless advertising for Powerball (and no, i am not sponsored by them...) I recently tested their new 3000psi air system with a .68 Luxfer bottle on a fairly new MkII field Inferno, shooting at ave 260fps and i got 970, yes nine hundred and seventy!! shots without any drop-off and not one missed shot. Impressive is what i'd call it...
 

Ollie91

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Aug 31, 2006
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Care to say why?
yes if you wish
infernos are getting old now and alot of their internals and working parts arent up to scratch, although you can get replacement parts they dont last and the gun in general isnt as reliable as the tippmann 98 and as we all know tippmanns are known for their reliablity and they are easy to maintain, reliability and maintenence being two of the most important things for a site gun, also alot of people whether they know much about paintball or not may look at two sites and decide to go to the one with never guns or the ones which look better or for whatever reason so on the head to head i think infernos loose out and tippmann 98s come out on top
 

Gups

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yes if you wish
Infernos are getting old now and alot of their internals and working parts arent up to scratch, although you can get replacement parts they dont last
The Tippmann 98 has actually been around longer than the Inferno Mk2 which has been in production for under 3 years, i believe. The only part that generally needs replacing on the Inferno is the valve, which is under a fiver, and occasionally the valve guide. Most other parts last for years, even with the abuse our customers throw at them. Have you actually studied the machining and tolerances on Inferno parts? I doubt it- they're flawless.
the gun in general isnt as reliable as the tippmann 98
We have found the Inferno to be more reliable than the Tippmann provided it's is kept clean and oiled, which is part of a good marshal/managers duties. IMO, the only benefit a Tipmann has over an Inferno is the ability to fire when full of mud, grit and paint. But that's not good for the long-term life of the gun, so really you gain nothing.
and as we all know tippmanns are known for their reliablity and they are easy to maintain, reliability and maintenence being two of the most important things for a site gun
Problems we encountered with the Tippmann were LOTS of valve problems, and the 98 valves are a biatch to service. They are not designed to be end-user servicable which means you either hold a lot of spares or you have a lot of down-time. Power tubes cracking were another problem we encountered and sears made from cheese, well it seemed that way..!
End of day maintenance on a Tippmann may be easier as some sites just hose them down or use a pressure washer, although Tippmann don't recommend this. However, if your marshals are trained properly it takes just seconds to remove the bolt from an Inferno, squeegie through, oil the hammer and replace the bolt and give the gun a quick wipe over, which is all it needs.
If we're takling about stripping a gun down to fix it then the Inferno wins hands down, and yes i've worked on both as site guns.
also a lot of people whether they know much about paintball or not may look at two sites and decide to go to the one with newer guns or the ones which look better or for whatever reason so on the head to head i think infernos loose out and tippmann 98s come out on top
I think you contradict yourself there, Sputnik. If Tippmanns last as long as you suggest then a site would have to buy new guns less often so their fleet of guns would be very old :confused: I think a customer would put the make of gun pretty low on their list of priorities when choosing a paintball site. Usually the top 4 priorities when picking a site are: 1. Cost/value, 2. Location of site to where they live/ transport links, 3. Site facilities/scenarios and 4. Word of mouth recommendations.
:)
 

AL21784

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Sep 19, 2005
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wow, youv'e thought about this for a couple of minutes :rolleyes: ^

if your marshals are trained properly it takes just seconds to remove the bolt from an Inferno, squeegie through, oil the hammer and replace the bolt and give the gun a quick wipe over, which is all it needs.
i agree with this bit completly, at the site i marshall at, at the end of the day we strip ALL of the guns down and clean them. It's so easy to do, well unless your a complete chimp, but then there pretty chimp proof anyway. :D