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Aldo

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Hi guys, I am from Italy and I would to know better the paintball world.
Some questions:
1) Is the Spyder MR1 a good choice to start?
2) Can the MR1 or just all paintball markers mount both CO2 and compressed air tank?
3) Somebody told me all markers can be regulated to increase/decrease shot power.. it's true?
4) And.. what is the Joule power of the Spyder MR1 or Tippmann entry markers?
5) Can I fill my empty air compressed tank?
6) and if previous answer was yes, so what is the cheapest way to fill an empty air compressed tank? (please list of devices!)

Thank you all in advance and sorry for my english!
 

Tom

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1) Is the Spyder MR1 a good choice to start?
It's reasonable for a start, but is a very basic gun
You may like to look elsewhere for other alternatives
What it your prefered type of paintball?
What is you experience?
Can you get anywhere to get your hands on other guns - shops, walkons or events with shops attending?
2) Can the MR1 or just all paintball markers mount both CO2 and compressed air tank?
Not all can take co2 & compressed air. Of current guns all can take compressed air. Co2 either cannot be used, or is not recommended on electric / electronic guns
What is your choice of air & co2 from the sites you can attend?
3) Somebody told me all markers can be regulated to increase/decrease shot power.. it's true?
For all current guns yes.
4) And.. what is the Joule power of the Spyder MR1 or Tippmann entry markers?
Good question - they can be adjusted at quite a range usually operated at a velocity between 250 & 300 feet per second, and 280fps is usually required by uk sites. But guns could go higher or lower
In the uk approx 12 foot pounds is assessed for a standard paintball at 300fps, and if I'm right then that's 58.5 joules
5) Can I fill my empty air compressed tank?
If you have a high pressure clean air compressor, or a scuba / diving cylinder and fill adaptor
6) and if previous answer was yes, so what is the cheapest way to fill an empty air compressed tank? (please list of devices!)
At a paintball site, or from a dive cylinder which you get filled from a diving centre
 
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Aldo

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Hi tommikka, in first thank you for answers!
So:
1) "What it your prefered type of paintball?"
Mmmmm I don't know what you mean.. I just would to have a good marker.. sure not the one that breaks soon and sure I would to spend as little as possible..

"What is you experience?"
Never used a marker!!

"Can you get anywhere to get your hands on other guns - shops, walkons or events with shops attending?"
Nearest place (a paintball center) is far at 80km from my town..


2) I prefer mechanical marker cause I think electronic markers can easly brakes and sure mechanical are pretty cheapest (I have little money).. I am wrong about?

And good to know all markers can mount air compressed tank! but I notice is more widespread the CO2 tanks (from many paintball internet sites)


3) "For all current guns yes."
I am really happy about 'cause I was afraid that I could buy a weak power marker

4) 58.5 joules???? Are you sure about??? I was pretty sure normal markers (like the Spyder MR1) can reach not over 7 or 8 joules...
Sure is that in Italian rules any weapon that goes beyond 7,5 joules is consider as "fire weapon" so illegal without gun licence.

And over that, what is the medium shot range of a entry marker (like the Spyder MR1)?
can I expect to reach 50 meters?

5) "If you have a high pressure clean air compressor, or a scuba / diving cylinder and fill adaptor"
good to know! But the adaptor fit in all markers or all markers have their special adaptor?
and can I think to use cheapest air compressors?

6) mmm ok, is reasonable to think to have own "compressor + adaptor" at a reasonable price? In other words, how many paintball fans have their own "recharge center" in their homes?

NEW QUESTION:
What is the tank life? how many bullets I can shot before to find my tank empty?
And... can I damage my marker if I try to shot with an empty tank?


Thank you very much for support!
 
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BOD

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6) mmm ok, is reasonable to think to have own "compressor + adaptor" at a reasonable price? In other words, how many paintball fans have their own "recharge center" in their homes?

NEW QUESTION:
What is the tank life? how many bullets I can shot before to find my tank empty?
And... can I damage my marker if I try to shot with an empty tank?


Thank you very much for support!
Compressors are very expensive, you're looking at around £2000 for a second hand one then ideally you need some storage bottles, so i'd say hardly anyone has home "recharge centers".

Tank life is how many years the bottle is usable for before it needs to be scrapped and no it won't damage your marker to fire with an empty tank as your marker won't be able to fire.
 

Tom

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1) "What it your prefered type of paintball?"
Mmmmm I don't know what you mean.. I just would to have a good marker.. sure not the one that breaks soon and sure I would to spend as little as possible..
By this I mean:
Ordinary recreational play - in the woods etc
Scenario - in the woods or at special venues, with a theme
Speedball / tournament competitive style
Special events - urban, unusual venues

If you've not had experience yet then you could have some great fun ahead finding out what you like to play

"What is you experience?"
Never used a marker!!

The above would be used to recommend guns.

"Can you get anywhere to get your hands on other guns - shops, walkons or events with shops attending?"
Nearest place (a paintball center) is far at 80km from my town..
If you could get there it would help you to see other options and try them out
But from the rest of what you have said the spyder will be a reasonable and inexpensive start
They are simple and reliable, so you can look after it easily and learn as you go

2) I prefer mechanical marker cause I think electronic markers can easly brakes and sure mechanical are pretty cheapest (I have little money).. I am wrong about?
Electronic ones could break but there are good ones around at a fair price
Eg the smart parts ion was a leader that dropped the cost of getting into electronic guns
Gog are the new name for smart parts. I don't know whether they go by gog or smart parts in Italy
But with a mechanical one you don't have to worry about batteries etc

And good to know all markers can mount air compressed tank! but I notice is more widespread the CO2 tanks (from many paintball internet sites)
In the uk sites have moved on from co2 to air, but in the 'rental/punter' market many sites still run co2
If the options for you will be co2 then it is wise to stick to a gun and cylinder that are appropriate


3) "For all current guns yes."
I am really happy about 'cause I was afraid that I could buy a weak power marker

4) 58.5 joules???? Are you sure about??? I was pretty sure normal markers (like the Spyder MR1) can reach not over 7 or 8 joules...
Sure is that in Italian rules any weapon that goes beyond 7,5 joules is consider as "fire weapon" so illegal without gun licence.
I'm not 100% sure, it's based on me converting some figures, and it may also be best that someone more familiar with Italy & paintball confirms

And over that, what is the medium shot range of a entry marker (like the Spyder MR1)?
can I expect to reach 50 meters?
If I confirm or deny range I will get it wrong! But it does not matter if your gun costs £50 or £1000
The range is approx the same - all are limited by the velocity of the paintball. Other than that it is how efficient the paint and barrel match are

5) "If you have a high pressure clean air compressor, or a scuba / diving cylinder and fill adaptor"
good to know! But the adaptor fit in all markers or all markers have their special adaptor?
and can I think to use cheapest air compressors?


Re the adaptor for cylinders - air cylinders are filled by a 'nipple' and need the right attachment, co2 cylinders are filled through the 'asa' and need an appropriate fitting
Either way you would need more information on specifics to do it yourself


NEW QUESTION:
What is the tank life? how many bullets I can shot before to find my tank empty?
And... can I damage my marker if I try to shot with an empty tank?
Fibre air cylinders have a maximum life of 15 years
Steel/aluminium cylinders can last forever
But both would need a test every 5 years
It's not normally cost effective to retest a steel/aluminium cylinder and it's easier to replace them with a new one

Shot counts will vary, there is a calculator if you google search 'scuba toys shot calculator'
 

Aldo

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Thank you tommikka and BOD! Now I am a little closer to the paintball world!
Only little problem seems to be the way to recharge the air or worse the CO2..

For now thank you again!
 

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I had an MR1 as my first gun. Done not to bad. Found it hard to buy one new in the uk. I found it hard to try and get any replacement parts for it closer to the end of owning it.