Creed or Demon? Why?

[TomF]

Not sure if this is in the correct thread, mods please correct me if not.

Anyway,

Hi everyone, I've been thinking about getting a new marker soon as I've got some money on it's way that I want to spend. I currently have an Ego 05 so looking for something a bit more modern and different. I have decided to try a Vanguard as I've heard great things about them.

Which do you prefer? Creed or Demon? Why? Which one is better at what? What are the different versions?

Also, if you only have experience with one or the other please feel open to say what you like about it.

Thanks everyone!

 

[foot]

Creed = poppet
Demon = spool valve

So both very different, but both will require more maintenance than the Ego you have so be prepared to carry spares and have a good knowledge of the creed/demon.

Spares for the creed may soon be hard to come by as its been discontinued, The Demon is fine for parts as its current.

As for which one is better, Only you can decide that, But if you do get a Vanguard, WHEN it goes wrong drop me a PM and i will help you out

 

[Teddy picker99]

i personally would never in a thousand million lifetimes touch a vanguard demon without the 2013 internals, nor have i or would ever touch a creed. I have a 2013 demon, which i like, other than the grips are made from soggy biscuit and if you happen to touch them with your hand theyl break. Want my advice, if your hellbent on a vanguard, find a 2013'd demon, if not buy an empire axe. X

 

[TomF]

Creed = poppet
Demon = spool valve

So both very different, but both will require more maintenance than the Ego you have so be prepared to carry spares and have a good knowledge of the creed/demon.

Spares for the creed may soon be hard to come by as its been discontinued, The Demon is fine for parts as its current.

As for which one is better, Only you can decide that, But if you do get a Vanguard, WHEN it goes wrong drop me a PM and i will help you out

I always carry all my spares with me when I take my Ego out, better safe than sorry so I can just do the same with the Creed/Demon.

I meant more like efficiency, range, accuracy but the way you said "WHEN it goes wrong" has made me somewhat put-off

What makes you say "WHEN" though? Are they constantly causing trouble?

 

[foot]

I always carry all my spares with me when I take my Ego out, better safe than sorry so I can just do the same with the Creed/Demon.

I meant more like efficiency, range, accuracy but the way you said "WHEN it goes wrong" has made me somewhat put-off

What makes you say "WHEN" though? Are they constantly causing trouble?

Demon efficiency is very good as is the smoothness of shot.
The Creed can be made to shoot smooth with a few tweaks and upgrades, Efficiency is okay but there are better poppet guns out there.

My advice is to wait till a few more Vanguard users post up and see what they say, then spend your money on a DM, Ego, Axe ect.

 

[TomF]

Demon efficiency is very good as is the smoothness of shot.
The Creed can be made to shoot smooth with a few tweaks and upgrades, Efficiency is okay but there are better poppet guns out there.

My advice is to wait till a few more Vanguard users post up and see what they say, then spend your money on a DM, Ego, Axe ect.

Thanks bud! I was originally going to buy a sweet Ego 10 but bought a puppy so only had funds an for 05 What's the difference between a normal Demon and a 2013 Demon?

 

[Game]

one works one is a paper weight

 

[Teddy picker99]

Thanks bud! I was originally going to buy a sweet Ego 10 but bought a puppy so only had funds an for 05 What's the difference between a normal Demon and a 2013 Demon?

The 2013 actually shoots paint. Main one, No qev in the manifold. X

 

[WildWayz]

Demon 2012 with 2013 internals or a 2013 model outright = fantastic marker.
Without the 2013 internals - be prepared to change QEV mid game.

 

[upzii]

Get an ego9 for same amount of cash, save yourself the trouble