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Blibble

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I want a stock/shroud for my Delta Elite, but I can't find them anywhere. I see them for other gun models, and I have pictures of what I want but I can't find it anywhere for this marker. Is there anywhere that specialises in custom parts for markers you can ask them for and they craft for you?
 

Blibble

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I can't find anything with the shroud I want. I've found the stock I want, I've read the Tipmann 98C Commando stock will fit the Delta Elite, but the shroud I want I can't find anywhere.

I want the final product to look like this.

http://images.wikia.com/zombiefanfiction/images/e/e4/74959.jpg

I can put the stock, raiser, red dot, double mag on myself, but I can't find any shroud with picatinny rails on it for the DE so that I can add a foregrip.
 

niallist

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gommie isn't big on doing imitation firearm looking stuff but there are plenty of people on there who know about all the shrouds and bits to make it look like a big scary gun.
 

Tom

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Gommie isn't keen on building things that are too close to firearms because of the VCRA in relation to the building of RIFs (Realistic Imitation Firearms)

If the final build is considered to be close enough to a real gun then an offence has been made by the person who built it.

You can do it the old school way by getting airsoft shroud parts and modding to fit. Unless you fall within the VCRA exemptions then it is an offence to sell an airsoft gun to you (even a broken one) Paintball has no exemptions, a hopper and an air cylinder don't necessarily distinguish a marker from a firearm.

You can legally buy individual shroud parts, but it could be an offence to modify and assemble them.

If you can strip enough off your marker to allow the shroud to fit, or hack away internal parts of the shroud to fit the marker then virtually any airsoft body that is big enough can be modded fit a paintball marker.

Order from abroad and it will be seen by customs, they will either ignore it as parts or raise a query with you for a customs declaration justifying your eligibility for RIFs. They will most likely ignore parts such as shrouds. (But remember if you exceed the import thresholds then duty will have to be paid)

You can do it and if sensible probably won't have any trouble. Act like a chav with it then expect problems and risk prosecution.
 
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Blibble

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Hmm, that's put a bit of a dampener on things. I'm no chav, far from it lol despise them. I last paintballed about 3/4 years ago though. I was aware that the airsoft rules had to spray 50% of your gun unless you were a member of a site. How does anyone with Milsim guns stay on the right side of the VCRA laws? Is it a case of the second I finish putting the marker together I've broken the law? I'm not okay to put it in my bag, drive it to the site and take it out there to play with for the day or what? I mean the standard Delta Elite unmodded could pass for an MP5 to your general Joe Blogs. Wouldn't any MilSim player be breaking the law there?

Thanks for the replies.
 
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Tom

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I was aware that the airsoft rules had to spray 50% of your gun unless you were a member of a site. Is it a case of the second I finish putting the marker together I've broken the law?
Comply with 'two tone' requirements and no law broken.
As soon as you build, and someone calls it a RIF then the law has been broken (subject to going to court)

How does anyone with Milsim guns stay on the right side of the VCRA laws?
Depends on classification of MilSim, putting on rails etc and adding shrouds is not necessarily 'MilSim'
But mag fed markers that are lookalikes to real guns without hoppers etc are quite clearly RIFs (They do differ from real guns at least by the barrel thickness, however that needs close up examination which still leaves it as a RIF)
This has not stopped them remaining on sale, e.g. RAP4
However RAP4UK exist from about the time the VCRA came into force, note that they have since been visiting by a Cheif Constables study team from a local area and they recommended that RAP4UK do something about their appearance before someone makes an 'official' visit.
RAP4UKs solution was to offer two tones with blue parts (not necessarily to the approved colours & percentages of VCRA) or a voluntary membership scheme similar to teh airsoft skirmisher scheme (But there is also no exemption in the law with the RAP4UK scheme - It was a matter of them needing to show good intent)

MagFed bodykit mods will make markers into RIFs - which implies the individual has committed the offence. As these are in kit form of only certain parts then the retailer has no obligation on the VCRA.

I own a Tacamo AK47 which though it has a feedneck and air supply I feel anyone could call it a RIF, however I have owned this since before the act came into force and the act caters for those already posessed. So I am legal, but I may need to proove it one day.

I'm not okay to put it in my bag, drive it to the site and take it out there to play with for the day or what?
This should be happening with all markers inluding bling anyway.
On a practical basis whatever could be a RIF is probably fine in this way

I mean the standard Delta Elite unmodded could pass for an MP5 to your general Joe Blogs.
It could do, it is a grey area as it does not need to be an 'expert' to decide if it is a RIF or not.
In the visit that RAP4UK received the senior police officers concerned said they felt most markers they sold could potentialy be RIFs, including basic A5s.

Until someone goes to court its all subject to opinion

You ought to be fine so build a shroud kit onto a marker, just be careful how much you publicise photos if you do it too well, and keep it bagged until you are on site - and be ultra wary of selling on!