R.I.P Borg!

[resistence1993]

to be honest i dont feel bad for a person who commits suicide just his loved ones they are the ones that must live with that thinking it is there fault asking them self if they could have done something i guess i dont know why he did it or what he was dealing with but it sounded like he had many people that cared about him and to me he had no excuse to put them through that

that said i did watch most of his videos before and liked them i was even planing to base my helmet of s similar idea and still am allthough i will use mostly 357 45 and 9mm casings and some shotgun shells as i cant get my hands on any rifle ammo well except 22

 

[Bambulus]

to be honest i dont feel bad for a person who commits suicide just his loved ones they are the ones that must live with that thinking it is there fault asking them self if they could have done something i guess i dont know why he did it or what he was dealing with but it sounded like he had many people that cared about him and to me he had no excuse to put them through that

It's been my experience to not speak of things you don't know. This would certainly be one of those times, especially considering the profile of this situation and how many people have been affected by it. That's a very inappropriate opinion to hold here.

Similar things have been said on American forums, to which somebody in the know came and corrected them.

 

[resistence1993]

It's been my experience to not speak of things you don't know. This would certainly be one of those times, especially considering the profile of this situation and how many people have been affected by it. That's a very inappropriate opinion to hold here.

Similar things have been said on American forums, to which somebody in the know came and corrected them.

and your making asumtions that i dont know about this kind of thing the girl i used to date was suicidal my sister used to cut herself and my dad has been in a constant state of severe depresion for about 4 years


considering the profile of this situation it is even more selfish if he has so many people that cared and loved him then what he did makes no sense and is extremly selfish i understand when a no body a person with no friends no family and no hope comits suicide but if a person has many loved ones and i asume a good life it makes no sense to kill yourself and the only people you hurt are the ones that loved you

 

[Canon Fodder]

reistence1993, to save you hunting american forums I'll mention a couple of things I picked up from one of them. Borg was living in his car in the car park of the place he worked, hoping each day that there would be work him, more often than not there wasn't. He was cycling 35 miles to see his fiancee because he couldn't afford petrol for his car. Then his fiancee broke it off.

This wasn't some teenage bout of depression, life was pooping on him from a great height and while I'm not saying taking his life was the correct thing to do it's easy to see how he became convinced to do it.

Mod's - please remove this post if you considered it inappropriate.

 

[resistence1993]

reistence1993, to save you hunting american forums I'll mention a couple of things I picked up from one of them. Borg was living in his car in the car park of the place he worked, hoping each day that there would be work him, more often than not there wasn't. He was cycling 35 miles to see his fiancee because he couldn't afford petrol for his car. Then his fiancee broke it off.

This wasn't some teenage bout of depression, life was pooping on him from a great height and while I'm not saying taking his life was the correct thing to do it's easy to see how he became convinced to do it.

Mod's - please remove this post if you considered it inappropriate.

if thats the case then why did he paintball it isent exactly a a cheap sport to be involved in

 

[Buddha 3]

I can see this thread go bad real quick...

 

[Missy-Q]

I can see this thread go bad real quick...

Agreed, but people shouldn't be sheep, even when it's an emotional time.
I don't agree with positive sentiment on suicide. The attention is wasted on the guy that's gone, but acts as a stimulus for other depressed individuals.
The best man at my wedding just lost his brother-in-law to suicide 2 weeks ago. His sister and her family are in a mess. They can't even return to their family home as that's where he hung himself, and the wife won't go back there. He had 2 young boys, who can't understand why they can't go home and why they have to stay at their grans. I think what the guy did was selfish in the extreme, cowardly even.

I don't know Borg at all, whether the circumstances are similar, or if Borg has family to grieve, hopefully not, but if his parents are still alive that makes it even worse. No-one should die before their kids, or have to blame themselves for their childs demise.
I don't want to seem insensitive, but sympathising with people that take their own life and lavishing attention & pity on those individuals could easily encourage others to follow that example.

Apologies if I've upset anyone.

 

[BaconDude]

I think Resistence could do with keeping his opinions to himself before he upsets even more people... Have some compassion, y'know?

 

[Bambulus]

and your making asumtions that i dont know about this kind of thing the girl i used to date was suicidal my sister used to cut herself and my dad has been in a constant state of severe depresion for about 4 years

considering the profile of this situation it is even more selfish if he has so many people that cared and loved him then what he did makes no sense and is extremly selfish i understand when a no body a person with no friends no family and no hope comits suicide but if a person has many loved ones and i asume a good life it makes no sense to kill yourself and the only people you hurt are the ones that loved you

Don't make this personal, you're not the only one who has experiences like these. Suicide does terrible things to people, and it is difficult to for people to deal with - some people never get closure. What's worse for them, though, is the people who come along and then condemn the person they loved without ever knowing them.

I wasn't out to criticise you personally, nor to even make out that your opinion was wrong; I just felt that airing an opinion such as that on a thread dedicated to (or at least in light of) Borg's death is a tactless thing to do, especially when there was absolutely no reason to - your post came completely out of the blue.

I'm quite happy to leave it at that. There's no more need to continue a discussion such as this on this thread.

 

[Cook$]

Right, Resistence you are entitled to your opinions, and at another time and place it would be appropriate to air them, but not here, not now. You got that?

Same applies to the rest of you guys please.