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Teamwork ???? Yeah right !!!....

GSuperstar

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I see run thoughs as benafit mainly to the individual. If they make it through and also shoot the other players they are seen as amazin.
Couldn't disagree more. Unless your referring to a specific team or player in your own opinion.

A run through is usually to kill somebody in a key spot, it 'looks' amazing when it's the right thing to do in that situation.

It's those who try to run from back centre to mug out the last person that are searching for the 'to look amazing' badge.

When Lang runs through a team and eliminates 3 players, it's not because he had the pre-thought of what it'll look like on viddeo, it's because he weighed up that for 1 death he could make 3 kills.

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Robbo

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Any action on a paintball field that results in an opposition elimination, or the acquisition of real estate and a different angle are all beneficial to the team as a whole .. to suggest a run through as benefiting only the person who executes it is insane, truly insane.

I have seen Ollie Lang win his teams soooo many games with his 'selfish' run-throughs that it beggars belief how anybody could even suggest it's anything but unselfish ....sheeeesh ... :rolleyes:
 

Ainsley

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This Hulk run through was to try and look amazing though, but was fortunately stopped by some chimp who happened to be half hanging out of his bunker at the time :p
 

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I maybe insane but i've seen it may the times across the devisions (you do know i'm not just talking about sup air i'm talking about paintball in general?).

At the end of the day it's my opinion and you have your opinion. If we all throught the same then we would be having this discussion :D
 

Robbo

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I maybe insane but i've seen it may the times across the devisions (you do know i'm not just talking about sup air i'm talking about paintball in general?).

At the end of the day it's my opinion and you have your opinion. If we all throught the same then we would be having this discussion :D

Ob, at least nobody can say you're inconsistent mate :)

PS ..and Ob, each and every member of the Flat Earth Society had an opinion .. an opinion they had every right to possess ....
 

Duncan Berry

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imho teamwork in paintball comes down to two main things the players knowing each other (more importantly getting on with each other) and putting the needs of the team above that of their own.

Now unfortunatly this 'sport' has alot of ego and alot of chances to show off ones own individual skills. now combined with the fact that most teams only meet up once a week for a few hours and team rosters change so fast, leaves little time for a team to really bond and trust each other
 

Dr Fingers

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Teamwork

imho teamwork in paintball comes down to two main things the players knowing each other (more importantly getting on with each other) and putting the needs of the team above that of their own.

Now unfortunatly this 'sport' has alot of ego and alot of chances to show off ones own individual skills. now combined with the fact that most teams only meet up once a week for a few hours and team rosters change so fast, leaves little time for a team to really bond and trust each other
This demonstrates the team formation model (forming, storming, norming, performing) really well. Teams can cycle through and never get beyond the "Forming" and "Storming" stages. The "Storming" occurs where individuals within the team set about establishing a pecking order within the "Pack".
 

Dusty

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That mental level of teamwork Robbo first alluded to is almost impossible to quantify.

I've often played alongside my brothers, people have commented at times that we have an almost uncanny understanding of each other and so little communication is required between us, more often than not I'll be saying single words like "go" just "knowing" which bunker they want to get to even though it may not always be the most obvious. Occasionally they've just got up and run past me, as have I, knowing that we'll see and adjust to get whatever job done is required.

Dynasty have "it" through years of playing together, Yosh, Ollie, Ryan and Alex have been playing together since their early teens and they practically live in each others shoes.

The Russians haven't been playing together as long as a unit but they also have "it" through the strictest training regime ever put together in paintball. Those guys are full time paintballers in that they train it, they play it, they learn it in an academic sense and train for almost all conceivable scenarios 3v2 for and against 2v1 for and against 3v3, 4v2, 5v2 etc etc. Their coaching crew have been known to figure out which bunkers to BOUNCE paintballs off in order to hit the other team (mentioned by one of the Ironmen in the days when Xball fields had "pin" bunkers). This is knowledge and training though, not necessarily the natural occasionally mythical bond which Dynasty demonstrated especially in the days of 7 man when they reigned supreme.
 

Robbo

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It would seem timely, after the weekend's national squad success, to ask how the least prepared team could have won??
We all know well enough that our squad had the least amount of time to prepare for the event and so doesn't it seem kinda curious as to how we could have won?
After all, if teamwork needs time to create .... then things just ain't adding up here ...:confused:

There are an awful lot of people who talk about teamwork as if it's the be all and end all of a team's performance portfolio of skills but I've always believed this to be a crock of sh!te .... the weekend's performance tends to back me up .. or does it?