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[Robbo]

Sometimes in life you have to decide whether or not your moral right to accuse someone of something is outweighed by the more pressing need to be socially appropriate.

If your friend's wife had asked if you thought her nose was on the large side and you genuinely thought it looked fuhkin enormous, it might well prove socially more appropriate to play down its size rather than adhering to the truth of the matter.

And so, even with such a contentious, yet essentially trivial subject of misappropriating a free ride, it's best to maintain the social status quo and desist from voicing your opinion albeit a correct one.

 

[platoongod]

I would agree with you if he deliberately avoided the train ticket officer, by things like hiding in the toilet for example, but most people these days pay for tickets on the train itself ...or at least i do....if the ticket officer did not do his job and come round collecting tickets then i dont see why you would go out of your way to approach him and ask for one, ....although i guess its a conscience question, such as you go to a shop and get £90 worth of goods, hand them 5x £20 and you get £20 change, do you say "sorry you gave me £10 to much" or do you get the hell out before they realise, perhaps you were a bit harsh though.. as much of a idiot the guy may of been, i wouldn't create a socially awkward situation because you having a different view.
Had you of caught him stealing a purse from a seat near by or even stealing food from the passing food cart i would understand, but lets face it, its the job of the conductor to come around and ask for tickets - i would like to think had that of happened the "thief" in question would have paid?................then again you haven't explained how he fair dodged, did he avoid the ticket officer? or was he simply not approached?

 

[MattyD]

I think Robbo has kinda summed it up,

So basically, you comfronting him has revealed to him your dislike for him as most people would hold their words for someone they really got on well with.

Heres an excellent example:

You have a best friend you`ve known for many years, and he has met financial hardships. So he reveals to you that he has started to deal heroin.

If you dislike what he is doing, instantly your facial movements and body language will indicate you are unhappy with what he is doing.

But you`ve known him for all your life, and he`s your best friend. Instead of reporting him to the police, you are going to "Play it down" and remove the sense of duty to report him from your own mind.

See what i`m saying? Chances are, there are many other reasons why you don`t like the guy! Thats why you`ve made it an issue!

My opinion:

If his actions in life are generally selfish and evil then you`ve made the right choice.

There seem to be far too many selfish and evil ********s in our society. In order for a person to make change he must make the change himself, or make decisions that will impact change. Far too many people seem to think its not their own duty to influence change. But I think in the right situation a person should take a stand, and make a decision for change.

Who is rosa parks?

She was a black lady who refused to sit at the back of the bus and she was prosecuted for it.

But her decision sparked a change in society, and today we have an equal and multi cultural society.

 

[Dusty]

Sometimes in life you have to decide whether or not your moral right to accuse someone of something is outweighed by the more pressing need to be socially appropriate.

If your friend's wife had asked if you thought her nose was on the large side and you genuinely thought it looked fuhkin enormous, it might well prove socially more appropriate to play down its size rather than adhering to the truth of the matter.

And so, even with such a contentious, yet essentially trivial subject of misappropriating a free ride, it's best to maintain the social status quo and desist from voicing your opinion albeit a correct one.

I understand what you mean about social graces with personal things ie looks, weight, large and protruding body parts etc but in other cases this could be considered two faced. A lot of people don't like me because I don't piss around with words and everyone knows exactly what I think of them. Now, I'm not one bit bothered by this fact because I'm content in the knowledge I'm not bullsh*tting anyone and i don't have to try to remember who i've to be nice to and who i've already told the truth to

Anyone i consider a friend knows it, anyone I don't also knows not to come knocking on my door.

I think Mario was right to say what he believed. I'm quite certain the chap in question had plenty to say and helped to dig his own hole.

I think Robbo has kinda summed it up,

So basically, you comfronting him has revealed to him your dislike for him as most people would hold their words for someone they really got on well with.

Heres an excellent example:

You have a best friend you`ve known for many years, and he has met financial hardships. So he reveals to you that he has started to deal heroin.

If you dislike what he is doing, instantly your facial movements and body language will indicate you are unhappy with what he is doing.

But you`ve known him for all your life, and he`s your best friend. Instead of reporting him to the police, you are going to "Play it down" and remove the sense of duty to report him from your own mind.

See what i`m saying? Chances are, there are many other reasons why you don`t like the guy! Thats why you`ve made it an issue!

Sorry, I have to disagree with that. That heroin could affect the lives of my children at some point, particularly if it was a mate of mine who's close to me and my family so I'd be reporting it. Equally I wouldn't be around people who'd make that choice in the first place, there are other ways around being in financial hardship.

 

[Liam92]

Sorry, I have to disagree with that. That heroin could affect the lives of my children at some point, particularly if it was a mate of mine who's close to me and my family so I'd be reporting it. Equally I wouldn't be around people who'd make that choice in the first place, there are other ways around being in financial hardship.

i woudn't be too critical of the example he's given. its the principle behind it (preservation of the status quo) that is up for debate throughout this thread, but i quite agree that in a situation like that then you would definately feel more inclined to go 'against the grain' as it were.

 

[Bambulus]

i woudn't be too critical of the example he's given. its the principle behind it (preservation of the status quo) that is up for debate throughout this thread, but i quite agree that in a situation like that then you would definately feel more inclined to go 'against the grain' as it were.

Honestly, if I really didn't like a person in the first place, such an example would be a great excuse to point out what a tw*t they are

Sod the status quo.

It's only frustrating when it's a group thing - you point out the obvious and everyone else tries to shut you up just to try and save face with whoever, making you seem like the tw*t for saying anything at all (even though everyone around you would happily say the same behind whoever's back)

 

[MattyD]

Obviously that was a bad example then, but its the prinicipal behind it.

Ok heres the better example:

Your best mate cheats on his girlfriend.

Like liam said haha, its the prinicipal i`m trying to get across, ok so this is the internet and its hard to explain what your saying, but don`t take the example so literally haha.

ALSO

Brambulus i`m also with you there, I hate it when someone makes you out to be the bad guy, when your just highlighting someone else`s wrong doing.

Thats a massive pet hate of mine

 

[stongle]

Obviously that was a bad example then, but its the prinicipal behind it.

Ok heres the better example:

Your best mate cheats on his girlfriend.

Appropriate to thread then. Only a crime if you get caught.

 

[Dusty]

Obviously that was a bad example then, but its the prinicipal behind it.

Ok heres the better example:

Your best mate cheats on his girlfriend.

Like liam said haha, its the prinicipal i`m trying to get across, ok so this is the internet and its hard to explain what your saying, but don`t take the example so literally haha.

ALSO

Brambulus i`m also with you there, I hate it when someone makes you out to be the bad guy, when your just highlighting someone else`s wrong doing.

Thats a massive pet hate of mine

I wouldn't be saying to her, but i'd definitely be saying to him to go one way or the other and do the right thing. There's always the option to do the right thing as YOU see it.

I get the principle alright but there are various shades of grey too. I'd rather be myself for everyone than be a different person for everyone I know.

 

[MattyD]

I think everyone gets my drift, lets not start getting in depth about every example I give lol.

But yeah overall in relation to the thread I think its fair you took it up with him!

And I think you had the best interests at heart,

Even if your wife was abit ticked off with you at the time i`m sure she understands where your coming from! So you haven`t done the wrong thing.