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I also get asked "Sir, what's the point in doin' my tie up properly, it doesn't effect my learning." Which pisses me off no end.
 

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I also get asked "Sir, what's the point in doin' my tie up properly, it doesn't effect my learning." Which pisses me off no end.
back in high school i was told that i had to shave my hair off as it was inappropriate.
in what way would my hair affect my learning!? maybe you can explain that one?
 

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back in high school i was told that i had to shave my hair off as it was inappropriate.
in what way would my hair affect my learning!? maybe you can explain that one?

Ali, imagine this... you can go into school with a big sign around your head that says something like, 'I'm a prihk' that's all lit up by neon flashing lights ... now, your argument suggests it wouldn't directly affect you learning which is correct of course but it's not about that is it mate, it will however affect your learning indirectly!! ... it's about imposing standards upon those who attend school with a view to creating and maintaining a conducive environment for education to take place.

If you do not impose some behavioural standards then young people, being as they are, will always overstep the boundaries and it would be anarchy ...

Now, not all kids will overstep but I'm afraid it seems the standard of education is in some way connected to the lowest common denominator of behaviour.
We don't really want this do we ..

That being the case, you can go to school or you can go to the zoo ... your choice mate!!
 

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It may not affect your learning. However it shows me, and everyone else that you have a problem following a simple, strictly set rule, i.e., do your tie properly/have an appropriate haircut.

If your boss tells you that you have a dress code to follow, you need to follow that dress code. It should be the same in schools.

So there.
 

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It may not affect your learning. However it shows me, and everyone else that you have a problem following a simple, strictly set rule, i.e., do your tie properly/have an appropriate haircut.

If your boss tells you that you have a dress code to follow, you need to follow that dress code. It should be the same in schools.

So there.
Cook$, I think he's questioning as to why there has to be a dress code rather than whether or not someone is able to impose one ..and I think it's a legitimate question actually otherwise you just breed contempt borne out of a slavish adherence to a seemingly Draconian set of rules.
 

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cant really comment on that since im doing it for A level so i can remember most of the stuff...
and dont even bother complaining about gcse's! just you wait, just wait till you start college. your life will be over.....
Just you wait untill university, you will miss the days of college!!!

And to elite hax f';jfs';fj person...without all that chemistry stuff a lot of things you take for granted daily would not exist, a basic education in it is dam usefull if you ask me

But this time next year i will be have a masters in it hopefully
 

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Cook$, I think he's questioning as to why there has to be a dress code rather than whether or not someone is able to impose one ..and I think it's a legitimate question actually otherwise you just breed contempt borne out of a slavish adherence to a seemingly Draconian set of rules.
That's not how I read it.

I don't think it's particularly Draconian, having to to conform to a dress code. If anything, it creates a level playing field with everybody wearing the same, nobody being bullied for what they wear, and the girls not dressing like sluts (you should see the state of some of them on non-uniform days).

For the most part, people have to go to extra effort to break the rules. Then they come up with ridiculous excuses for why they have "I can't do my top button because it chokes me." Ah yes, that 15 inch collar must be tight on your 12inch neck.
 

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That's not how I read it.

I don't think it's particularly Draconian, having to to conform to a dress code. If anything, it creates a level playing field with everybody wearing the same, nobody being bullied for what they wear, and the girls not dressing like sluts (you should see the state of some of them on non-uniform days).

For the most part, people have to go to extra effort to break the rules. Then they come up with ridiculous excuses for why they have "I can't do my top button because it chokes me." Ah yes, that 15 inch collar must be tight on your 12inch neck.

Yo Cook$, the kid wrote the following:-

'back in high school i was told that i had to shave my hair off as it was inappropriate.
in what way would my hair affect my learning!? maybe you can explain that one'?


...which to me, suggets his final question in asking for an explanation as to how the imposition would affect this learning ability is kinda questioning the reason behind the rule as against the right to rule impose one.

I am 100% sympatehtic with your plight when dealing with kids, I really am mate and personally, I would last about 5 minutes if I was working as a teacher in a school these days ... I was lucky enough to teach in an environment where the kids had elected to go for reasons of catching up or indeed because they weren't taught fast enough at school.

This was at an extra-tuition college outside of school hours primarily for kids already at school.
I just couldn't handle the disrespect and ignorance some of these kids exhibit.
I think I'd have to injure a few to get my point across .. which I don't think goes down too well with any of the education overseeing committees :)

As for Draconian?
I didn't mean to suggest I thought it was Draconian, I don't, I think it's wholly appropriate and necessary; I was suggesting it was Draconian from the kid's point of view [check out the 'seemingly' placed in front mate] which was probably a bad thing to do seeing as most kids wouldn't even know what Draconian meant anyway :)