Why does this happen???

[eric]

I got home from a tournament Saturday morning(been too busy to get on the fourms seince then) and am puzzled. The tournament we attended was a 3 man open tournament with a very low entry fee. The entry fee was $50 and the prizes were trophies and medals.

We were set to play the first game of the tournament but the other team didnt show up until about 30 min AFTER the tournament started. We played them as our first game. We broke out and about 30 seconds in I drilled the back left with an obvious hit on the hopper. I yelled for a paint check but he wiped it before the ref got there. Our left tape guy then hit the back right guy, wipe, and then hit him again, wipe. I finally drilled the left guy twice in the mask(wipe that you little biatch) and he went off the field. We then pushed up the left and our left guy just lit them up untill he saw some hands in the air. We won.

We asked the refs to very closely watch that team and they caught them a bunch.

This team pretty much killed themselves all tournament. The had FOUR other 1for1's that tournament. That is a LOT with only 8 prelim games.

Why would you do this?
It is an almost free tournament, with no prizes and they CHEATED again and again. Why?

 

[Phoenix]

some people are cumpuslive and they feel the need to cheat. THose people are morally weak. I don't know the answer to that but what I do say is don't be those people.

 

[eric]

I just dont see the point in cheating in a tournament where the point is to play for pride.

 

[Phoenix]

Why do people feel the need to drop in division? I just got back from a tourney and magically, 3 of the teams we played all day I have seen play Novice, and win in that division. But, now magically they are playing Rookie? We are a damn good true Rookie team. I have played in a total of two tournaments (I have been ballin for 6 years on and off, but I finally made the jump to play alot in tourney style). 2 of my teammates were their first tourney. We almost always managed to get the flag pull, but they usually got us all out and hanged. We missed the semis by 4 points. In retrospect after all is said and done, damn good for a TRUE rookie team. Anyways, I diverged. Some people need to feel superior ant whatever cost. Dammit, I am going to open a field and enforce strict rules.

 

[Audguy]

I am not trying to be pessimistic {spelling?(who cares)}, but i think that it is an automated response in human nature to cheat.


Oh yeah Eric, I am glad to hear someone else use the word Biatch. Haha...

 

[TheRo0sTer]

Cheating well could be a number of things Eric. Morals, Poor Family Values, lack of Integrity you name it. The $hit is going to happen no matter what. But you guys did the best thing for that tourney by letting the Marshalls know what they were up too!

 

[Jones the Paint Magnet]

I'm afraid you will always get a minority of cheaters cropping up in a competitive event, much as a rec day will drag out the inevitable moron who thinks crawling around in the woods for a day turns him into a Spec Op.

In another sport, I've seen an ex-international cheating at a grass roots level club competition, and giving the judges (me included) the full "toys from the pram" screaming abuse fit. (one has to wonder why he went to a club like that anyway - probably so he could be assured of beating everybody).

I also once knew a UK junior champion who'd been competing for so long that the line had become blurred in his mind, and he had to act and behave in a superior manner to anybody else. This would include cheating at board games so he'd have an "edge". ("Yes! I rolled a six again! I win!).

Most pros or experienced amateurs I've spoken with are every bit as focussed and driven, but also know that learning from losing and improving your game is just as important. Guess you don't see too many people in the middle of an ego trip wanting to re-evaluate their performance - easier to wipe and pretend it didn't happen or blame the refs/equipment/paint/other players.

 

[Cenobite]

I'm sad to say that in my time playing paintball (about 10 years on and off) Ive seen a lot of cheating. Nothing upset me more than a several years ago (cant remember exactly 5 or more) at a big tournament, my first look into tournament ball. This tournament had a substantial number of UK "pro" teams.

In one game I watched, I saw "Professional" players, get clearly hit, then retreat back, to stand up amazingly clean. These "pro" players realised the marshalls were a little slow and also a little inexperienced and they capitalised on it. Some of the respected players that I read about in paintball magazines and aspired to be likewere in fact not as skilled as I believed, they were cheats.

I was disgusted (as were others), and complaints to marshalls were met with indifference, of course because they were "pro" and I was a spectator they got the benefit of the doubt.

At another tourny in the not so distant past, at which I was playing we came up against a very well known pro team albeit under a different name, for our second game against them. Admittedly we had lost our first game (we were novice) against them on a field in which visibility was bad. The second game was far more open, and we faired better. To cut a long story short, we (and our spare players watching from the tape) clearly saw marshalls (who strangely worked for the same company the team did), wipe blatant hits from the opposition, the marshall even deducted points after the game ended, by putting players back in after the game who had clearly been shot. It was blatant cheating of the worst kind, the marshalls.

Im sorry to say in my experience Ive seen as much cheating at the so called pro level if not more than I have at the amateur/novice level. I admit my exposure is only 4 or 5 tournies but its still saddening to me.

Dont get me wrong there are many many players at that level that have integrity and play fair, but there are still those that you have to wonder if they really deserve their reputation. Besides with that kind of role models, what chance does paintball stand?

 

[eric]

It just really pisses me off to see crap like this. At a major tournament where people are being pressured to win by sponsors, I can see where the idea to wipe can show up(but it should never happen) but why at a local no prize one. It pisses me off soooooo much.

And Biatch is a COOL word!

 

[SYTRAXZ]

hmmmmm

hmm im not supporting the cheaters but if they cheat and u and the ref dont see it then that makes you work that much harder to improve your skills which means you think there is some one better than you which will make you work harder to be the best because once your the best its all down hill from there and some times when your the best and you beat every one you become bored of being the best so you give up what you once loved. so if they diddnt cheat you would have won and gotton bored eventually but um i guess this has nothing to do with the thread so um bye.