What is the max BPS an AGD classic valve can hit before shootdown?

[Canon Fodder]

As title, not considering if you can pull the trigger that fast, just how fast the valve can do it. Got a Booyah frame I'm going to try and cram on an old minimag or classic and want to know how low I'll need to set the BPS limit for it to be consistent.

 

[renie]

they can shoot 12-13bps no probs, once u start getting to 15+ bps, i belive thats when shootdown occurs as they can't recharge fast enough

 

[Canon Fodder]

thanks renie - I knew you'd know. next question, the frame supposedly came with its own on / off since the solinoid struggles to activate the normal one. Do any of the lighter on / offs fit in a classic valve and if so where can I buy one? If this isn't an option I've heard boosting the voltage up to about 10.5v will make it strong enough to activate the classic one, anyone know of a PP3 sized battery boasting this kind of output?

 

[renie]

it depends what valve u have? a ule trigger will fit in some it needs to have 2 orings in the bottom of the on off,
though its not recomended as it cant keep up with the fire rates but im sure it would be fine on low bps
here's a link with more info:
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96538

 

[Gee Tee]

This is Hills E/P sleeper Mag running a classic valve

He was hitting 15bps easily without any noticable shootdown

 

[gommie404]

only down side of this,, nearly all games are now capped at a low rate of about 12 to 14 bps,,,

with all the play i have had with classic type mags,, the trigger frame you are talking about ,, can give a lot of problems..

there a hole setion over at warpig.com,,just on this frame and all the problems they had with it,,

how ever,, now im going to tell you that i have a emag sitting in my work shop ,,that i dont ever use,,

 

[Canon Fodder]

The frame will cap the bps from 6 - 14 bps (think that's the range) so shouldn't have a problem with bps Limits, I've heard the frame can be bothersome but I've got the bits so I might as well have a go, I'll go read the warping stuff.

 

[gommie404]

The frame will cap the bps from 6 - 14 bps (think that's the range) so shouldn't have a problem with bps Limits, I've heard the frame can be bothersome but I've got the bits so I might as well have a go, I'll go read the warping stuff.

they did the same as your doing here but with a x valve,,, have a read bud,, i still have a ton of seals and spares here at the workshop from my mag days,,,