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Ir3
Not a bad marker providing you get it in Mem6 COPS2, but COPS is pants anyway. Angels being Angels, either ya love em or ya hate em.
Oh... and the LED has one massive solenoid compared to even an LCD.
Ir3 is a good shooting marker and made with fronts in mind, needs a trigger job to get it shooting at a decent pace. It can't shoot no where near its board limit though, internals are just not capable.
COPS sensor very delicate to roughness via a straightshot etc.
Space Frame grip cheeks start to peal and flake after a while.
Nice and light, even lighter in its C&C and Fly versions and come in some wicked colours.
Just my 2p on the Ir3.
Not a bad marker providing you get it in Mem6 COPS2, but COPS is pants anyway. Angels being Angels, either ya love em or ya hate em.
Oh... and the LED has one massive solenoid compared to even an LCD.
Ir3 is a good shooting marker and made with fronts in mind, needs a trigger job to get it shooting at a decent pace. It can't shoot no where near its board limit though, internals are just not capable.
COPS sensor very delicate to roughness via a straightshot etc.
Space Frame grip cheeks start to peal and flake after a while.
Nice and light, even lighter in its C&C and Fly versions and come in some wicked colours.
Just my 2p on the Ir3.
What internal parts of the IR3 restrict it from shooting at 20 bps exactly? Because I shoot mine quite regularly at 17, and I've seen plenty of people who've maxed 'em out. Maybe my internals are just special, but they don't seem to have any trouble handling the job. The IR3 will shoot to it's board limit just fine, and if the board were less restricted, it'd be capable of shooting beyond that.
The IR3 is lighter and smaller than the LCD and LED. It's got the Space Frame, COPS (which works far better than any IR "eyes", don't let anyone tell you otherwise), redesigned LCD display and the opto switch. The only difference between it and the Speed is that the Speed has no LCD screen, and has some higher flow parts (redesigned LPR, internal body mods, higher flow valve and bolt) allowing it to operate at a couple hundred PSI less than the IR3. The LCD lacks the space frame, which strange as it may look, is very comfortable to use, it uses a microswitch board (mem 4 and up on the IR3's do not), it has a longer body because of it's larger solenoid, and doesn't have an anti chop system. The LED is pretty basic compared to the LCD and beyond. It's got a monstrous solenoid, it's heavier, obviously no LCD board, it's bolt is shorter, it came stock with a single trigger, so most of the ones with doubles are hack jobs with an aftermarket trigger guard bolted on, and it's pretty much unmilled (there are some versions with slight milling, but in the LED, the entire back half behind the roto breach cannot be milled at all). The new A4 looks pretty nice (all except for the "improved" trigger), kind of like the love child of the Speed and IR3. It operates at pressures like the Speed, is shorter and lighter than the IR3, has the "soft touch" bolt, new twist lock feedneck, and a useless guage. But those are obviously going to go for more money for a while.
The IR3 is lighter and smaller than the LCD and LED. It's got the Space Frame, COPS (which works far better than any IR "eyes", don't let anyone tell you otherwise), redesigned LCD display and the opto switch. The only difference between it and the Speed is that the Speed has no LCD screen, and has some higher flow parts (redesigned LPR, internal body mods, higher flow valve and bolt) allowing it to operate at a couple hundred PSI less than the IR3. The LCD lacks the space frame, which strange as it may look, is very comfortable to use, it uses a microswitch board (mem 4 and up on the IR3's do not), it has a longer body because of it's larger solenoid, and doesn't have an anti chop system. The LED is pretty basic compared to the LCD and beyond. It's got a monstrous solenoid, it's heavier, obviously no LCD board, it's bolt is shorter, it came stock with a single trigger, so most of the ones with doubles are hack jobs with an aftermarket trigger guard bolted on, and it's pretty much unmilled (there are some versions with slight milling, but in the LED, the entire back half behind the roto breach cannot be milled at all). The new A4 looks pretty nice (all except for the "improved" trigger), kind of like the love child of the Speed and IR3. It operates at pressures like the Speed, is shorter and lighter than the IR3, has the "soft touch" bolt, new twist lock feedneck, and a useless guage. But those are obviously going to go for more money for a while.
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I think you are wrong here. Board limit is 20BPS on a mem6 IR3 using COPS, however the internals can go further. If you install an ACE eye (bypassing the stock board) the internals can get upto 30 at least before any sort of drop off occurs...
There is even a video on WDP's site of the IR3 going full auto at 20BPS....?
speed rocks....lighter and shorter than all of them - (cept the A4) low pressure internals, the sensi which works proper well which means the gun correts to how fast your hopper feeds...piss easy to reach max rate of fire with a good hopper (egg2, Halo thats been modded slightly) Bitchin' marker to say the least...i've had two breaks since i got it 2 or three months ago and thats because my hopper died on me both times.....idiot that i am
Also the best of the lot.
Also the best of the lot.
Ok don't have to go full at it guys, just my opinion and few others who have tried it. The trigger unless it has a job on it is very restrictive unless you like stiff triggers. It certainly is no match for adjustability as far as Eclipse's blade triggers In My Opinion... isn't everyone entitled?
I have read on the Angel forums somewhere before something about the Angel not being able to perform at its fullest ability hence the new series of designs.. Speed and post-Speed.
Still a good marker though and made very solidly, although looking into the 14 -way housing you could easily slim that down to hug the solenoid.
Ahh well, look to the future and more bright things from WDP, living 10mins from their factory used to allow me to visit regularly during the Speed's debut.
I have read on the Angel forums somewhere before something about the Angel not being able to perform at its fullest ability hence the new series of designs.. Speed and post-Speed.
Still a good marker though and made very solidly, although looking into the 14 -way housing you could easily slim that down to hug the solenoid.
Ahh well, look to the future and more bright things from WDP, living 10mins from their factory used to allow me to visit regularly during the Speed's debut.
LED
Cheap
Some were very badly made.
Tricky to set up the dwell
LCD
Quite cheap
Stick a planet blade frame on this and it will rip 12-14 bps easy.
No anti chop device. (u can get one fitted if u have 150 notes to spend)
IR3
Bit lighter than LCD
COPS
Space frame (mmm abidextrous)
20bps
Rubbish stock trigger (change it)
Speed
Bit lighter than IR3
30bps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Low pressure rubbish (old wives tales)
No intelifeed as standartd, what was WDP thinking?
Still dodgy standard trigger
A4
Bit lighter than Speed
Vernier trigger adjustment (easy trigger job for morons)
Soft nose bolt (i wonder if this actually does anything)
Even lower pressure rubbish
Cheap
Some were very badly made.
Tricky to set up the dwell
LCD
Quite cheap
Stick a planet blade frame on this and it will rip 12-14 bps easy.
No anti chop device. (u can get one fitted if u have 150 notes to spend)
IR3
Bit lighter than LCD
COPS
Space frame (mmm abidextrous)
20bps
Rubbish stock trigger (change it)
Speed
Bit lighter than IR3
30bps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Low pressure rubbish (old wives tales)
No intelifeed as standartd, what was WDP thinking?
Still dodgy standard trigger
A4
Bit lighter than Speed
Vernier trigger adjustment (easy trigger job for morons)
Soft nose bolt (i wonder if this actually does anything)
Even lower pressure rubbish