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Wassup with Robbie the Robot at HB

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Anyone got any info/pics on this robot testing thingy? Did it work, or did it go mad and charge around the beach screaming"DANGER! DANGER CHUCK HENDSCH! DE-BOUNCE SETTINGS ADJUSTED INCORRECTLY!"

And so on...
 

manike

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Originally posted by TheBroz
Just to slighty skew off topic a bit.... Anyone got any info/pics on this robot testing thingy? Did it work, or did it go mad and charge around the beach screaming"DANGER! DANGER CHUCK HENDSCH! DE-BOUNCE SETTINGS ADJUSTED INCORRECTLY!"

And so on...
:D I checked it out.

As far as I know nobody EXCEPT Bob had the balls to put their guns onto the robot and get them tested. (also in part due to a shortage of laptops to run the thing. Bob actually found them a lap top to use to check his guns!).

They checked stock Alias/Empire guns out of the box, and they also picked on random people with Timmy's walking by (one of the Naughty Dogs guys I believe).

Guess what? They were all perfectly fine. There was no ramping or velocity change or speeding/ramping up of ROF. And the guns were still machine guns just like before. :D

So to all the rumours that came from two sources 1) the guy that thought he could write decent software but can't keep up anymore and 2) the company that invented cheater software... well it seems to have been proven as a case of sour grapes.

And as for the guy who apparently 'checked' the Alias boards with this robot and was making accusations at LA PSP... well apparently he's never even been to see the robot.. and some of his claims weren't even possible when tested with the robot... not the first time he's been proven to be full of **** either. :rolleyes: :D You can't believe a word that comes out of that snake oil salesmans mouth.

Some names have been changed to protect the lieing rumour mongers. ;) :D

(sorry for making a long post Ledz)
 

Baca Loco

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Nice to know there was an impartial observer on the scene.

Now if they could only manage the same with drug testing in baseball.
"Mr. Steinbrenner, I understand the Yankees are clean."
"I did all the testin' myself and I'm pleased to say they passed with flying colors."
 

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Originally posted by Baca Loco
Now if they could only manage the same with drug testing in baseball.
"Mr. Steinbrenner, I understand the Yankees are clean."
"I did all the testin' myself and I'm pleased to say they passed with flying colors."
Who's Mr Steinbrenner?......Who're the Yankees?.....What's Baseball?!?

:p
 

manike

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Originally posted by Baca Loco
Nice to know there was an impartial observer on the scene.

Now if they could only manage the same with drug testing in baseball.
"Mr. Steinbrenner, I understand the Yankees are clean."
"I did all the testin' myself and I'm pleased to say they passed with flying colors."
What's up? Sour cos the rumours you were trying to help along weren't true? :D

I wasn't there for the actual testing, but Beard was and I heard it all from him and Bob. I believe Beard to be a very genuine and impartial person, heck his position requires it.

Now let's see the other manufacturers step up to the plate and have their guns tested. ;) :D From what I hear a few of them were refusing...
 

Baca Loco

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Originally posted by manike
What's up? Sour cos the rumours you were trying to help along weren't true? :D
Where did I start or promote any rumors about any particular gun? Nor am I any sour-er than usual. :p Nor am I suggesting your "report" is innaccurate but I would find it, on the whole, more satisfactory coming from someone with no iron in any fire. :rolleyes:

If the fact that I've suggested there are multiple illegal or illegally equipped markers in regular tourney competition makes me a rumormonger I plead guilty. And to stay the course I'll suggest that even if Robbie works as well as some have suggested it won't and can't catch all the cheats currently in use.
 

manike

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Originally posted by Baca Loco
Where did I start or promote any rumors about any particular gun?
In another thread ;) , and I purposely held off to wait for proof and these tests to be done. I'm the kind of person that at least likes to have fire to go with my smoke. :D

Originally posted by Baca Loco
Nor am I suggesting your "report" is innaccurate but I would find it, on the whole, more satisfactory coming from someone with no iron in any fire. :rolleyes:
Agreed and understood. I would also like to have independent and impartial testers. I think beard with his technical understand to be one ideal candidate (sorry for volunteering you Beard!). I agree this data has to be independently verifiable.

One reason I'm getting a 'robot' also, so that I can test our, and OTHERS stuff. I understand that in my current position I can't be relied upon to be as unbiased as I used to be, but I'm still trying to be the voice of real data and facts rather than rumour and hype.

Originally posted by Baca Loco
If the fact that I've suggested there are multiple illegal or illegally equipped markers in regular tourney competition makes me a rumormonger I plead guilty. And to stay the course I'll suggest that even if Robbie works as well as some have suggested it won't and can't catch all the cheats currently in use.
:( I'm not going to argue with you there. You have valid concerns. :(
 

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What the fudge does Robbie look like? How does he work? The only specifics i know about the system are those that the NPPL said in their press release.

Those who know...spill the beans for the rest of us.
 

manike

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Taken from this thread http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=452178

Originally posted by Terry59
I witnessed some of the initial testing of the Nppl-MT04, Friday at HB. It required the use of a computer to operate the Oehler Ballistic Chronograph which is integral to the MT04. Since David Zinkham, the NPPL Scrutineer was having some difficulty in obtaining a computer. Bob Long and my fellow BLAST Tech, Neil Penny was able to provide both a laptop with the appropriate interface and experience in operating the program.

Bob has had a robot of his own for months now and we were all familiar with the Oehler’s program. A few Intimidators new and used were first used as guinea pigs in the testing.

The MT-04 was kept in a mini steel shipping container in the players area, adjacent to the entrance and registration area. Inside was a large banquet size table which atop laid the essentials to the MT04, it consisted of a marker rack which used velcro straps for locking the marker in position. Position to it’s side is a large aluminum jig that housed a DC electric motor, on it’s shaft was a plastic rectangular cam. When placed into position the cam could rotate to activate the trigger to a designated amount of shots per second thru a switch box.

With the 2 Intimidators that I saw going thru the testing, both Alias’s, both passed. Much to the chagrin and disappointment to some, but to the delight of Bob and ourselves. I believe that all of the other manufactures present were offered to bring samples for testing but none took up David’s offer. **cough ,cough**

Neither Bob, Neil or I know what became of the robot after Friday, Neil got his computer back, so David was back to square one on Saturday. The MT04 wasn’t really ready for use in HB, it was underestimated in what was required to prepare to operate Oehler’s Ballistic computer program. The league Scrutineer didn’t have enough experience in the installation or operation of the program. Last I heard Jim Drew offered to help, he too was having trouble in getting the software to work on another acquired computer and hadn’t been seen for the rest of the day. If they ever got the whole system running by the end of the event I don’t know.
 

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Originally posted by Terry59
Position to it’s side is a large aluminum jig that housed a DC electric motor, on it’s shaft was a plastic rectangular cam. When placed into position the cam could rotate to activate the trigger to a designated amount of shots per second thru a switch box.
Darn, i was hoping for cool ass robotic fingers walking the trigger. Oh and some wicked scary red eyes, all 'robots' need red eyes, it should be the law.